Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id w65JWFCk005631 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 21:32:17 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1fb9rf-0005Dp-8A for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 20:24:27 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1fb9re-0005Df-MH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 20:24:26 +0100 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91_59-0488984) (envelope-from ) id 1fb9rd-000069-8j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 20:24:25 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.103] ([185.78.62.105]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M243n-1gPYpI1vnH-00u0ut for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 21:24:23 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA08527A1C@servigilant.vigilant.local> From: Tobias DG3LV Message-ID: <6bd2ef3d-aa39-8c1b-2dd6-7383b1d970e1@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 21:24:17 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6DB8451D7F3D3947A5918808A59621EA08527A1C@servigilant.vigilant.local> X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:B89oAj1Lr+AYzUnirUbs4/Muaev55LQEeJSIwfU4xQPxL8L5SGW hjr9JUqkMYsf3PvAzH2LAwRcmcXHv35Uu10irMPKuTbubK22iJZf6H4BwIiEuQSra6Ya0d/ be+ltJvGSN82T26ijbbWsPYpRmE2QD+1W4sGfg2i56KHbxHYaNhzg2p82B/7vhU8/D1aMnh U/gsyueMCKRAz1A7T6CNg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:1NOzO/S5sus=:wyNTYtR83AB2UFCDMhn6dy MsX9IPyZXVFKnLgfy8odPvSr7GXDCftBrETEJqqvOZHmjkPkoU4VbNyb6ssR6gDjf8SgTNm3B DIMH4UpiUFf1L6fY8MzY8bWn+AG2awd0fMBWooIai7lIhYdQxIuF7YWnDXf0e0OjCowdlqwJ4 Yw5TkznNE4FY8YyUE2tijWHWAAp9jSmcMvFry26hAjrQGHPXW04H2WMnMHWz0woyvYKlEEh2q G8OWWyoLr7gmRbW4txGpakGO19Z3UouhR1PWjdJMBCcIYX5+LmHzIsB9EHMpLVqa4Cg9Leub/ /pUl78dVBfroaxbmcs6vBhE/B7osHv+/y5bSXsqkwDvyowM5l+xeKjyNKrZaG7zC8fELx3Olq q6Ee8o/XaTILP8GrHyjPKP0iPYFFLaKDlbOhQnHGDU6TfYLnUL3MVR9qDs9RCvmkpte0PAzOz xf9t9K3OowkT/MoMhId+BkqVQlueFe8dE+ltllyWEjKWBh78CLrtM/x0Cqq4x9VfATWOUv35H ZkOGcZr06mGMjtn/Y5a2/IlqhHuvwAq3hCFcgBtbrkxhpycyW/8mvdbw/buIB4nY7xfGjklV3 r3jsf0y9cJdaoLsH+CCeS2p/9p5YHELy3dWlbLCOUlpHO1PHdQyhTL+XOiHYW5czHmiJCQ4LE Obzpp93IK1fs3JDnL0rEUZBhtQU8dvET+hBy7FURv3ADCt+/zhoeC5snnFDDBGuLKQfiIW3vd hHD6iwgEJgaULLrUuwXAKCH/R/18SxXvXUFUQpWB3GyAampxdWNZaz2BPrBC+XdqfXshAYDat tMp72k6 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi Luis ! >> May be you are using WSJT-X? It is giving higer signal reports than WSPR-X >> I’m getting +18dB from my monitor at 7Km with WSPR-X and +30dB with WSJT-X >> So, a +11 would be -1 with WSPR-X. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [212.227.15.18 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (dg3lv[at]gmx.net) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: 1c38f63d01970a2bf149f660c9cb2a37 Subject: Re: LF: RE: Summer 630m Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Luis ! >> May be you are using WSJT-X? It is giving higer signal reports than WSPR-X >> I’m getting +18dB from my monitor at 7Km with WSPR-X and +30dB with WSJT-X >> So, a +11 would be -1 with WSPR-X. This was an issue of older WSJT-X software versions (1.7 ??), the current version WSJT-X 1.9.1 does not have that problem. It arose from the use of smaller (than 2500Hz) IF-filters. This is no longer a problem. I'm using 250 Hz Filters for WSPR and WSJT-X 1.9.1 works well. 73 de dg3lv Tobias Am 05.07.2018 um 10:59 schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fernández: > Thank you David > > May be you are using WSJT-X? It is giving higer signal reports than WSPR-X > > I’m getting +18dB from my monitor at 7Km with WSPR-X and +30dB with WSJT-X > > So, a +11 would be -1 with WSPR-X. Not bad anyway > > Indeed the 80m vertical (Kiteless) antenna with only 80W PA has an > amazing performace and low radiation angle > > Not a Tesla stuff but a real option for those living in flats. Building > height used as part of the antenna > > It’s very common in EA to live in 6 to 12 floors height buildings, which > gives you up to 25m for free, plus the height > > of the pole to support the high voltage section (after coil) of the > antenna. But people think they have to recreate a > > groung plane at the roof, which is not the way to go > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > > *De:*owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] *En nombre de *David Bowman > *Enviado el:* jueves, 05 de julio de 2018 10:22 > *Para:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk > *Asunto:* LF: Summer 630m > > Big WSPR signal from Luis EA5DOM overnight. > > Peaked at +11dB at 03.00 UTC   -  1596km > > David G0MRF >