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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi LF, Mike, Tom! Will be helpful for anybody, but on russian language: Old discussion at 136.su russian LF forum about ferrite ants and DM4TR grabber with ferrite ant practical results: [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [2a02:6b8:0:1a72:0:0:0:288 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rw3adb[at]yandex.ru) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 9ca91679b330d65f05d707c2d2b164fe Subject: Re: LF: Optimizing Ferrite Rod Antennas - OT? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi LF, Mike, Tom! Will be helpful for anybody, but on russian language: Old discussion at 136.su russian LF forum about ferrite ants and DM4TR grabber with ferrite ant practical results: http://136.su/index.php/topic,119.0.html The other old discusion on radioscanner.ru forum: http://www.radioscanner.ru/forum/topic22993.html -Many practical results from different OM's into forum but on HF band mainly. Russian book - main hand-book of all ferrite antenna designers in Russia: Khomich V.I. - The receivig ferrite rod antennas, but on russian language only. http://www.radioscanner.ru/files/antennas/file1138/ The wide-band ferrite rod original practic construction - OLUSHA-T from Sergey Zadorozhny from Kiev: http://sezador.radioscanner.ru/articles/solan-t.html 73! Roman > Tom: Many Thanks for the link to Ben H. Tongues writings. I own and have restored both R-98 and R-20 Blonder-Tongue radios circa 1959 and 1960...(Ben H. Tongue of Blonder-Tongue Labs, Inc.) > > The R-98 design stacks the 10.7Mhz IF transformer in series on top of the 455 kHz IF transformer. An interesting approach to a dual band receiver. > > The design of the R-98 got me thinking if it was possible to build an optimized LF/MF dual band antenna transformer.... I am not sure if it is worth the effort, with the extra feed line, etc. > > The point is that ideas for LF/MF exploration can come from other aspects of the radio art... > > 73, Mike wa3tts > > -----Original Message----- > From: DK1IS > To: rsgb_lf_group > Sent: Thu, Jul 19, 2018 4:59 pm > Subject: LF: Optimizing Ferrite Rod Antennas - OT? > > Hello group, > > To whom it may concern: cleaning up my old laptop I happened to find a > file from Ben H. Tongue dealing with the optimisation of ferrite rod > antennas: > > http://kearman.com/bentongue/xtalset/29MxQFL/29MxQFL.html > > Coming originally from the crystal radio people some design aspects in > the article could be interesting for our VLF, LF and MF work too - if > not already known. > > 73, > Tom, DK1IS -- 73! Roman, RW3ADB