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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hi David, Thank you, it is very interesting that so far the only station I had been able to copy is WA4SZE from -22 to -32dB almost impossible to hear, but no copy of ZF1EJ who is much closer, is ZF1EJ transmitting or just receiving like me ? 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Yes I must improve and I am working on my antenna and thank you for the link of your antenna, I should have an active antenna shortly up, I will keep you all posted and hope it will improve the reception. I am eager to try RX on LF as well as MF with a better antenna. I will keep you all posted, thank you again for your feedback and suggestions are always welcome. Vy 73 GL de Juan TG9AJR EK44sl On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 5:12 PM David Bowman wrote: > Nicely done Juan. > > There is even one report at -22dB in there which is much better than -29 > or -30. > > If you take a look at the WSPRnet database, and sort the WA4SZE reports > for distance, you > can compare your reports with others at a similar distance and see how > well your antenna is performing. > > One station you should be able to hear is ZF1EJ. It looks to be about > 600km so should OK from your QTH. > > If you don't have any luck with your dipole, a vertical (perhaps 10m of > wire on canes or something quick) may be an improvement. > That would need to be tuned at the base with a large coil but a resonant > antenna may be better. > > It doesn't have to look neat to work! Here is something from a few years > ago that was fun. http://g0mrf.com/500kAntenna.htm > > 73 GL > > David > > 2018-06-17 14:15 GMT+00:00 TG9AJR Juan Munoz : > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0306 -29 0.5 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0342 -30 0.4 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0346 -28 0.3 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0350 -27 0.4 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0354 -29 0.5 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0414 -30 0.4 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0418 -30 0.5 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0426 -25 0.4 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0434 -29 0.3 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0454 -29 0.5 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0458 -22 0.4 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0502 -23 0.5 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0506 -24 0.4 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0510 -25 0.5 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0514 -27 0.4 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0518 -30 0.4 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0546 -31 0.6 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0626 -30 0.4 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0646 -30 0.5 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0738 -29 0.5 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0742 -28 0.5 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ 630m >> 0754 -32 0.5 0.475652 0 WA4SZE EM65 23 2357 >> >> Juan >> TG9AJR >> EK44sl >> > > --0000000000001cabad056edefa1e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi David,

Thank you, it is very interes= ting that so far the only station I had been able to copy is WA4SZE
from -22 to -32dB almost impossible to hear, but no copy of ZF1EJ who is= much closer, is ZF1EJ
transmitting or just receiving like me ?

Yes I must improve and I am working on my antenna a= nd thank you for the link of your antenna,
I should have an activ= e antenna shortly up, I will keep you all posted and hope it will improve t= he
reception. I am eager to try RX on LF as well as MF with a bet= ter antenna.

I will keep you all posted, thank you= again for your feedback and suggestions are always welcome.

=
Vy 73 GL de

Juan
TG9AJR
EK44sl


On Sun,= Jun 17, 2018 at 5:12 PM David Bowman <davidg0mrf@gmail.com> wrote:
Nicely done Juan.

Th= ere is even one report at -22dB in there which is much better than -29 or -= 30.

If you take a look at the WSPRnet database, an= d sort the WA4SZE reports for distance, you
can compare your repo= rts with others at a similar distance and see how well your antenna is perf= orming.

One station you should be able to hear is = ZF1EJ.=C2=A0=C2=A0 It looks to be about 600km so should OK from your QTH.

If you don't have any luck with your dipole, a = vertical (perhaps 10m of wire on canes or something quick) may be an improv= ement.
That would need to be tuned at the base with a large coil = but a resonant antenna may be better.

It doesn'= ;t have to look neat to work!=C2=A0=C2=A0 Here is something from a few year= s ago that was fun.=C2=A0 http://g0mrf.com/500kAntenna.htm

73=C2=A0 GL

David

2018-06-17 14:15 GMT+00:00 TG9AJR= Juan Munoz <tg9ajr@gmail.com>:
------------------------------------------------= ------------------ 630m
0306=C2=A0 -29=C2=A0 =C2=A00.5=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 0.475652=C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=C2=A0 =C2=A0WA4SZE=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 E= M65=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A023=C2=A0 =C2=A02357
----------------------= -------------------------------------------- 630m
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------------------------------------------= ------------------------ 630m
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-----------------------------------= ------------------------------- 630m
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----------= -------------------------------------------------------- 630m
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---------------------------------------------------------= --------- 630m
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--------------------------------= ---------------------------------- 630m
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------= ------------------------------------------------------------ 630m
0458=C2=A0 -22=C2=A0 =C2=A00.4=C2=A0 =C2=A0 0.475652=C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=C2=A0 = =C2=A0WA4SZE=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 EM65=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A023=C2=A0 = =C2=A02357
------------------------------------------------------= ------------ 630m
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----------------------------= -------------------------------------- 630m
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---= --------------------------------------------------------------- 630m
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--------------------------------------------------= ---------------- 630m
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-------------------------= ----------------------------------------- 630m
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-----------------------------------------------= ------------------- 630m
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----------------------= -------------------------------------------- 630m
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------------------------------------------= ------------------------ 630m
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Juan
TG9AJ= R
EK44sl

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