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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Time lapse video ? Many, many years ago when I was experimenting on 73kHz , G3PLX wrote the first recording and decimation software that could reduce an off air signal to a few milli Hz bandwidth, sampled in I/Q at a few Hz sampling rate (All pre-sound card days, using a Motorola DSP evaluation kit) . The I/Q files could be saved for subsequent analysis - a bit like that used for Ebnaut, now. This was the first QRSS [...] Content analysis details: (0.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [2a00:1450:400c:c09:0:0:0:235 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (andy.g4jnt[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 AC_DIV_BONANZA RAW: Too many divs in a row... spammy template 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid 1.0 FREEMAIL_REPLY From and body contain different freemails X-Scan-Signature: 71d15a2d59c84b0306c3db2979b0f687 Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH MF spots Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a174e3056d06a2cd" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --000000000000a174e3056d06a2cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Time lapse video ? Many, many years ago when I was experimenting on 73kHz , G3PLX wrote the first recording and decimation software that could reduce an off air signal to a few milli Hz bandwidth, sampled in I/Q at a few Hz sampling rate (All pre-sound card days, using a Motorola DSP evaluation kit) . The I/Q files could be saved for subsequent analysis - a bit like that used for Ebnaut, now. This was the first QRSS One trick I did was to take these recorded files, play them back at, say, 1000 times the sampling rate then upconvert to audio. The resulting QRSS signal at 30 second dots then became 30ms dots or around 36 WPM morse I then did this on an ionospheric broadcast carrier recorded overnight. The resulting multipath and Doppler, when multiplied by 1000 times and converted gave the most amazing whale like 'natural' sounds I've heard. The sound of the ionosphere. Unfortunately I've lost the .WAVs of that, and currently have no means to record HF signals in a narrow bandwidth to I/Q files. (I have highly stable Caesium or GPS locked LF and microwave receivers, but not set up for locking a receiver at HF) Andy www.g4jnt.com On 25 May 2018 at 12:54, DK7FC wrote: > Hi Luis, LF, > > The upper end of the spectrum is much more popular somehow. > Such videos would also be helpful to rise the interest in LF, but i don't > know a similar one, except the SAQ and other commercial stuff of course. > > On the other side, watching a video showing a "CQ EA5DOM" coming in in > QRSS-6000 may take a bit long... > But certainly we could also offer fascinating videos showing what we do..= . > > 73, Stefan > > > Am 25.05.2018 13:06, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez: > > Hi Andy > > > > We do! J > > > > Last ODX two weeks ago was 303km in 47GHz > > And also in digimodes, FT4 and Opera, but we didn=E2=80=99t try FT8 > > > > There is also a video if you want to see the opposite side of the spectru= m > going on > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DINw8IJjn_LE > > > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > > > > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@ > blacksheep.org ] *En nombre de *Andy > Talbot > *Enviado el:* viernes, 25 de mayo de 2018 12:47 > *Para:* LineOne > > *Asunto:* Re: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH MF spots > > > > You could always try the microwave bands > > No dependence on the ionosphere > > Too frequency-unstable to support FT8 > > Equipment home-brewed > > Just as much fun... > > > > > Andy > > www.g4jnt.com > > > > > > On 25 May 2018 at 11:40, VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez = wrote: > > Hi Pascal, MF > > > > Uncharted territory. Or better said, it was a very well known band in th= e > past and now we have to re-discover > > Who knows ? > > > > The only CERTAIN is that all the radio universe will collapse into a > single black FT8 hole ;-) > > > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > > > > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@ > blacksheep.org] *En nombre de *Pascal Deveaux > *Enviado el:* viernes, 25 de mayo de 2018 11:54 > *Para:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Asunto:* Re: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH MF spots > > > > hello Luis, MF, > What will happen after the solstice? Will we have less luck? > > Le 25 mai 2018 12:40:50 GMT+04:00, "VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez" < > luis@vigilant.es> a =C3=A9crit : > > Hi MF > > > > Last night two unique decodes from Pascal, FR5DH. There were no decodes > since may 21th > > > > 2018-05-25 01:30 > > EA5DOM > > 0.475608 > > -30 > > 0 > > IM98xn > > 1 > > FR5DH > > LG78pw > > 8783 > > 129 > > 2018-05-24 22:30 > > EA5DOM > > 0.475608 > > -26 > > 0 > > IM98xn > > 1 > > FR5DH > > LG78pw > > 8783 > > 129 > > > > The DST has been high this days but there were many Solar X ray flares > untill this settle down yesterday > > > > Almost one moth for solstice and counting ! ;-) > > > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > > > > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@ > blacksheep.org ] *En nombre de *VIGIL= ANT > Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez > *Enviado el:* lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 10:47 > *Para:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Asunto:* LF: RV: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night > > > > Hi MF > > > > On more night of good conditions as DST keeps up > http://wdc.kugi.kyoto-u.ac.jp/dst_realtime/presentmonth/ > > > > 2018-05-21 01:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -31 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-21 00:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-20 23:50 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-20 23:40 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-20 23:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -24 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-20 23:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > > > > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@ > blacksheep.org ] *En nombre de *VIGIL= ANT > Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez > *Enviado el:* domingo, 20 de mayo de 2018 13:08 > *Para:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Asunto:* LF: Re: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night > > > > Hi Pascal, MF > > > > Last night we got some spots again > > > > 2018-05-20 01:40 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-20 01:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-20 01:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-19 23:40 EA5DOM 0.475608 -32 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-19 21:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-19 21:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-19 21:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > 2018-05-19 20:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -31 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw > 8783 129 > > > > I'm afraid (and really hope) that there is no correlation between > earthquakes and MF propagation > > > > But really wondering why I'm getting so good chances in this path. It is > not by brute force and ERP power > > So, the other possibility is antenna radiation pattern in vertical plane. > The 90m vertical has probably a > > very low radiation pattern. And at sea coast that means even more chances > to get a very flat take off > > angle to FR5. So low that may be I can reach there with four hops instead > of five, which would be the > > case for an average antenna with higer radiation angle > > > > Four hops for 8783Km distance is about 2196Km per hop. Which is under the > theoretical maximum > > of 2235Km for an E layer situated at 100Km height > > > > Path profile from here to Reunion, providing four 2196Km hops shows that > first hop would land in south > > Libya desert area, second in Sudan desert and third into the ocean, not > far away from the coast of Kenia > > That third bouncing in sea water would be a bonus for a weak signal > to reach Reunion in the next bounce at > > decodable levels. With five shorter hops the third would land on ground > and the extra attenuation may > > left no much for a fourth hop to the ocean and then a five one > > > > This are just my thoughts. Would be interesting to know experts opinion > > > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM > ------------------------------ > > *De:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@ > blacksheep.org] en nombre de Pascal Deveaux [fr5dh@hotmail.com] > *Enviado:* s=C3=A1bado, 19 de mayo de 2018 7:50 > *Para:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Asunto:* LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night > > Hi MF, > I am not a specialist in the MF propagation and earthquakes, but I ask if > the recent earthquakes in Mayotte Island have influenced the reception > here. Mayotte is on the path between EA and FR: > > > 2018-05-19 02:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 87= 83 129 2018-05-19 > 01:50 EA5DOM 0.475608 -26 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-19 > 01:40 EA5DOM 0.475608 -27 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-19 > 01:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-19 > 01:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -26 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-19 > 00:50 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-19 > 00:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-19 > 00:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-18 > 23:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-18 > 23:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -20 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-18 > 22:50 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-18 > 22:30 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-18 > 22:20 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-18 > 22:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -27 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-18 > 22:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -23 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 201= 8-05-18 > 21:10 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98xn 1 FR5DH LG78pw 8783 129 > > 73, Pascal > > > 73, > Pascal (FR5DH) > > > > --000000000000a174e3056d06a2cd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Time lapse video ?

Many, many years ago= when I was experimenting on 73kHz , G3PLX wrote the first recording and de= cimation software that could reduce an off air signal to a few milli Hz ban= dwidth, sampled in I/Q at a few Hz sampling rate (All pre-sound card days, = using a Motorola DSP evaluation kit) .=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The I/Q files could be = saved for subsequent analysis - a bit like that used for Ebnaut, now.=C2=A0= This was the first QRSS

One trick I did was to ta= ke these recorded files, play them back at, say, 1000 times the sampling ra= te then upconvert to audio.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The resulting QRSS signal at 30 se= cond dots then became 30ms dots or around 36 WPM morse

=
I then did this on an ionospheric broadcast carrier recorded overnight= .=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The resulting multipath and Doppler, when multiplied by 1000= times and converted gave the most amazing whale like 'natural' sou= nds I've heard. The sound of the ionosphere.=C2=A0 Unfortunately I'= ve lost the .WAVs of that, and currently have no means to record HF signals= in a narrow bandwidth to I/Q files.=C2=A0 (I have highly stable Caesium or= GPS locked LF and microwave receivers, but not set up for locking a receiv= er at HF)

=
Andy
<= br>

On 25 May 2018 at 12:54, DK7FC <selber= denken@posteo.de> wrote:
=20
Hi Luis, LF,

The upper end of the spectrum is much more popular somehow.
Such videos would also be helpful to rise the interest in LF, but i don't know a similar one, except the SAQ and other commercial stuff of course.

On the other side, watching a video showing a "CQ EA5DOM" coming = in in QRSS-6000 may take a bit long...
But certainly we could also offer fascinating videos showing what we do...

73, Stefan


Am 25.05.2018 13:06, schrieb VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez:
=20 =20 =20

Hi Andy

=C2=A0

We do! J

=C2=A0

Last ODX two we= eks ago was 303km in 47GHz

And also in dig= imodes, FT4 and Opera, but we didn=E2=80=99t try FT8

=C2=A0

There is also a= video if you want to see the opposite side of the spectrum going on

https://www.yo= utube.com/watch?v=3DINw8IJjn_LE

=C2=A0

73 de Luis

EA5DOM

=C2=A0

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_gro= up@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Andy Talbot
Enviado el: viernes, 25 de mayo de 2018 12:47
Para: LineOne <rsgb= _lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH MF spots

=C2=A0

You could always try the microwave bands=

No dependence on the ionosphere

Too frequency-unstable to support FT8

Equipment home-brewed

Just as much fun...

=C2=A0


Andy

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On 25 May 2018 at 11:40, VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1n= dez <luis@vigilant.es<= /a>> wrote:

Hi Pascal, MF

=C2=A0<= /p>

Uncharted ter= ritory. Or better said, =C2=A0it was a very well known band in the past and now we have to re-discover =

Who knows ?

=C2=A0=

The only CERT= AIN is that all the radio universe will collapse into a single black FT8 hole=C2=A0 ;-)

=C2=A0=

73 de Luis

EA5DOM=

=C2=A0=

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Pascal Deveaux
Enviado el: viernes, 25 de mayo de 2018 11:54
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH MF spots<= /p>

=C2=A0

hello Luis, MF,
What will happen after the solstice? Will we have less luck?<= /p>

Le 25 mai 2018 12:40:50 GMT+04:00, "VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez" <luis@vigilant.es> a =C3=A9crit :

Hi=C2=A0 MF

=C2=A0

Last night = two unique decodes from Pascal, FR5DH. There were no decodes since may 21th

=C2=A0

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=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0

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=C2=A02018-05-24 22:30=C2=A0

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The DST has= been high this days but there were many Solar X ray flares untill this settle down yesterday

=C2=A0

Almost one = moth for solstice and counting ! ;-)

=C2=A0

73 de Luis<= /span>

EA5DOM

=C2=A0

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [ma= ilto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez
Enviado el: lunes, 21 de mayo de 2018 10:47
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: LF: RV: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night=

=C2=A0

Hi MF

=C2=A0

On more nig= ht of good conditions as DST keeps up http://wdc.kugi.kyoto-u.ac.jp/dst_realtime/presentmo= nth/

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2018-05-20 23:50=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-30=C2=A0=C2=A0= 0=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0= =C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129=C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-20 23:40=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-30=C2=A0=C2=A0= 0=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0= =C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129

2018-05-20 23:10=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-24=C2=A0=C2=A0= 0=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0= =C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129=C2=A0

2018-05-20 23:00=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-29=C2=A0=C2=A0= 0=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0= =C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129=C2=A0

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73 de Luis<= /span>

EA5DOM

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De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [ma= ilto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez
Enviado el: domingo, 20 de mayo de 2018 13:08
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: LF: Re: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night=

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Hi Pascal, MF

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Last night we got some spots again

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2018-05-20 01:40=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-28=C2=A0=C2=A0= 0=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0= =C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129=C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-20 01:20=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-28=C2=A0=C2=A0= 0=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0= =C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129=C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-20 01:00=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-30=C2=A0=C2=A0= 0=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0= =C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129=C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-19 23:40=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-32=C2=A0=C2=A0= 0=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0= =C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129=C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-19 21:30=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-30=C2=A0=C2=A0= 0=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0= =C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129=C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-19 21:20=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-28=C2=A0=C2=A0= 0=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0= =C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129=C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-19 21:00=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-30=C2=A0=C2=A0= 0=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0= =C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129=C2=A0=C2=A0

2018-05-19 20:10=C2=A0=C2=A0EA5DOM=C2=A0=C2=A00.475608=C2=A0=C2=A0-31=C2=A0=C2=A0= 0=C2=A0=C2=A0IM98xn=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0FR5DH=C2=A0=C2=A0LG78pw=C2=A0= =C2=A08783=C2=A0=C2=A0129=C2=A0

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I'm afraid (and really hope) that there is no correlation between earthquakes and MF propagation

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But really wondering why I'm getting so good chances in this path. It is not by brute force and ERP power

So, the other possibility is antenna radiation pattern in vertical plane. The 90m vertical has probably a

very low radiation pattern. And at sea coast that means even more chances to get a very flat take off

angle to FR5. So low that may be I can reach there with four hops instead of five, which would be the

case for an average antenna with higer radiation angle

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Four hops for 8783Km distance is about 2196Km per hop. Which is under the theoretical maximum

of 2235Km for an E layer situated at 100Km height

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Path profile from here to Reunion, providing four 2196Km hops shows that first hop would land in south

Libya desert area, second in Sudan desert and third into the ocean, not far away from the coast of Kenia

That third bouncing in sea water would be a bonus for a weak signal to=C2=A0reac= h Reunion in the next bounce at=C2=A0

decodable levels. With five shorter hops the third would land on ground and the extra attenuation may

left no much for a fourth hop to the ocean and then a five one<= /u>

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This are just my thoughts. Would be interesting to know experts opinion

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73 de Luis

EA5DOM

De:<= /span> owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [ow= ner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Pascal Deveaux [fr5dh@hotmail.com]
Enviado: s=C3=A1bado, 19 de mayo de 2018 7:50
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: LF: EA5DOM-->FR5DH 16spots last night=

Hi MF,
I am not a specialist in the MF propagation and earthquakes, but I ask if the recent earthquakes in Mayotte Island have influenced the reception here. Mayotte is on the path between EA and FR:


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73, Pascal


73,
Pascal (FR5DH)

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