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[82.70.254.222]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 58sm26310823wrv.41.2018.04.16.03.24.58 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Apr 2018 03:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 11:24:57 +0100 From: Chris Wilson X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <953519455.20180416112457@gmail.com> To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello LF'ers, After an expensive accident whereby my home brew antenna change over relay put nearly a kW of RF up the RX antenna jack of my Kenwood TS-590 i want to safely long term test the relay. It may have been my lack of foresight in using two identical N type sockets for the amp input and the antenna on the relay box and they got reversed...The relay is a Russian http://qro-parts.com/product_info.php?products_id=102 [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (dead.fets[at]gmail.com) 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 290c8768709872f914a4ca71ad6bfe49 Subject: LF: Antenna change over relay testing question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello LF'ers, After an expensive accident whereby my home brew antenna change over relay put nearly a kW of RF up the RX antenna jack of my Kenwood TS-590 i want to safely long term test the relay. It may have been my lack of foresight in using two identical N type sockets for the amp input and the antenna on the relay box and they got reversed...The relay is a Russian http://qro-parts.com/product_info.php?products_id=102 It needs 24V to reliably change, that is sourced from 12V via a DC to DC converter that is energised via a safely long delay from my U3S exciter so TX is delayed 100mS It's connected like this: The output of my 1 kW amplifier to NO connection and receiver to NC connection of the same relay, with COM port to antenna), then de-energized I'd always be in RX mode and energized I'd be in TX mode and there's no way the TX should ever be connected to the RX no matter what failed. (Theoretically! I am not sure what reversing the amp and antenna connections may have caused, but I am concerned some other issue caused the RF to appear on the RX port....) I don't think the pre LPF voltages from the amp would be too high for this relay, but can't be 1005 sure of this given what occurred. In any case there's also a 40 Amp 24V automotive "safety relay" that grounds the RX output jack when in TX mode. The failure of this to protect the TS-590 further suggests I might have had the antenna and amplifier connectors reversed, although it all worked fine until the early hours when the WSPR spots ceased and I found the bad news. Anyway, I need a "something" to put across the RX antenna output BNC socket that wil blow or somehow tell tale if RF is injected there. I don't have a high power enough dummy load other than a huge water cooled 10kW Bird one which means flowing mains water through it to an outside gutter overnight or longer. My none water cooled one won't take high power for long at all. If a FET blows in the amp I can swallow that, rather than my current Red Pitaya receiver getting RF up it :) So what could I put across the jack instead of a receiver that will tell tale anything nasty happening during a prolonged test please? Thanks. -- Best regards, Chris mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com