Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id w389BFhL016273 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2018 11:11:16 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1f56AR-0004C2-Dc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Apr 2018 09:59:19 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1f568n-0004Bm-3p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Apr 2018 09:57:37 +0100 Received: from omr-a019e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.67]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f568h-0002r0-EQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Apr 2018 09:57:33 +0100 Received: from mtaomg-aag01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aag01.mx.aol.com [172.26.126.79]) by omr-a019e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4A3563800093 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2018 04:57:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mcb06a.mail.aol.com (core-mcb06.mail.aol.com [172.27.61.6]) by mtaomg-aag01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1502738000082 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2018 04:57:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 184.98.240.190 by webjas-vae168.srv.aolmail.net (10.96.23.171) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 08 Apr 2018 04:57:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 04:57:26 -0400 From: Ward K7PO To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-Id: <162a4797468-1db9-bdf2@webjas-vae168.srv.aolmail.net> In-Reply-To: <162a3bf2785-17a0-82d4@webjasstg-vaa42.srv.aolmail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: JAS STD X-Originating-IP: [184.98.240.190] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aim.com; s=20150623; t=1523177847; bh=btMsx4aO7bPyMhZVYE+v/fNUTKTpTpcayKv6eND3WXU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IN1chYUps1Se+7vM9tD/h/e3FU5kmzN9Ls0cUNk7W261SinfvVcOtdkHD/xOqEkhp eKr8E1jYIbX1ZQB5yKTLWPfQCnk44X650kySdDyfFqCdo6vtSVk3DY0CIqD9yHWcn5 KtEeO0y0cUdaIoLQf/hMe55uvP9Xx0abCCxlp0IA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7e4f5ac9d97761e4 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Paul, I may have missed some of the previous posts, but here's my $0.02 worth. When I built my first version of the amp, I set the X2 option on the U3S and drove the amp directly from the CLK output on the U3S synth. Everything worked fine. On the next one, I had all sorts of weirdness until I removed the 50 ohm resistor on the input. I assumed the U3S at 3.3v couldn't provide enough drive across the resistor. Since then, I have left the resistor out of every amp driven by the U3S, with no issues. A level translator would probably be better, but I have thousands of hours on a couple of these amps with no problems. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (wmwheaton[at]aim.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 896f9ee4f10c5db37812c155e804756d Subject: Re: LF: W1VD amp help Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_61375_1974904805.1523177845864" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------=_Part_61375_1974904805.1523177845864 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul, I may have missed some of the previous posts, but here's my $0.02 worth. When I built my first version of the amp, I set the X2 option on the U3S and drove the amp directly from the CLK output on the U3S synth. Everything worked fine. On the next one, I had all sorts of weirdness until I removed the 50 ohm resistor on the input. I assumed the U3S at 3.3v couldn't provide enough drive across the resistor. Since then, I have left the resistor out of every amp driven by the U3S, with no issues. A level translator would probably be better, but I have thousands of hours on a couple of these amps with no problems. Ward K7PO -----Original Message----- From: JD To: rsgb_lf_group Sent: Sat, Apr 7, 2018 10:37 pm Subject: Re: LF: W1VD amp help The 74F74 is an edge-triggered flip-flop. so the correct input for the main board is a square wave at TTL voltage levels, with fast rise and fall times, but with a current requirement greater than TTL because of the 51 ohm load resistor. As for the oscillation when the doubler is used, the issue may be whether there's enough shielding. The phase detector input of the 74HCT4046 that provides signal conditioning is very sensitive...maybe not enough to break into oscillation spontaneously, but perhaps enough to sustain it once a feedback path has been established with actual RF through the power stage. 73 John ------=_Part_61375_1974904805.1523177845864 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul,

I may have missed some of the previous posts, but here's my $0.02 worth. When I built my first version of the amp, I set the X2 option on the U3S and drove the amp directly from the CLK output on the U3S synth. Everything worked fine. On the next one, I had all sorts of weirdness until I removed the 50 ohm resistor on the input. I assumed the U3S at 3.3v couldn't provide enough drive across the resistor. Since then, I have left the resistor out of every amp driven by the U3S, with no issues. A level translator would probably be better, but I have thousands of hours on a couple of these amps with no problems.

Ward K7PO



-----Original Message-----
From: JD <us66soft@aol.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sat, Apr 7, 2018 10:37 pm
Subject: Re: LF: W1VD amp help

The 74F74 is an edge-triggered flip-flop. so the correct input for the main board is a square wave at TTL voltage levels, with fast rise and fall times, but with a current requirement greater than TTL because of the 51 ohm load resistor.

As for the oscillation when the doubler is used, the issue may be whether there's enough shielding. The phase detector input of the 74HCT4046 that provides signal conditioning is very sensitive...maybe not enough to break into oscillation spontaneously, but perhaps enough to sustain it once a feedback path has been established with actual RF through the power stage.

73
John

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