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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi LF, Yes, Stefan, with a unique recording file started manually and normal OpDS settings ("Wolf method"). Many thanks and GE all. 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Many thanks and GE all. All the best 73 de Riccardo IW4DXW Il Mar 27 Mar 2018, 17:13 Markus Vester ha scritto: > Congratulations Ric and Rob! > > On their way to Italy, two of last night's transmissions also stopped by > in Nuremberg, 3 UT (3.0 dB) and 4 UT (2.0 dB). > > Best 73, > Markus (DF6NM) > > > > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- > Von: Rob Renoud > An: rsgb_lf_group > Verschickt: Di, 27. Mrz 2018 14:01 > Betreff: Re: LF: K3RWR LF EbNaut Trial #2 > > Riccardo, > > Wow - well done at your QTH! > > Transmitting at 1W EIRP here. Antenna is a 12.4m vertical wire with 140m > of top loading. > > I will transmit overnight 27/28 March again with the 30 character message > repeating every hour. Will then switch to a 20 character message with 1 > second symbol period repeating every half hour. Will post the details of > the new message on this web site. > > Thanks & 73, > Rob - K3RWR > > > > > > On Mar 27, 2018, at 05:00, Riccardo Zoli wrote= : > > > Hi Rob, Markus, Stefan, LF > > Congrats for recent LF EbNaut success! > > Last night, I have decoded your message here in *JN64bw* (Ariano). This > is a new LF EbNaut W->E QRB record: *7048 km*. > UTC 0200, *Eb/N0 =3D 2.2 dB* (see attachments). > > My rig is a homebrew SDR, clocked by a GPSDO. The antenna is an inverted = L > 12m height, 36m long. > > > All the best > > > 73 de Riccardo IW4DXW > > > > > > 2018-03-27 1:29 GMT+02:00 Rob Renoud : > > Stephan, > > Thank you for your most insightful, and correct comments. > > I will continue to explore EbNaut as a communications and QSO mode on > 2200m. Your suggestion to focus on messages taking up to 25 minutes and > containing 15 characters fits well with using EbNaut as a QSO mode. > > I have both Windows and Linux computers - plan on starting with Windows > and transition to Linux as I gain confidence with EbNaut RX. > > Tnx & 73, > Rob - K3RWR > > On Mar 26, 2018, at 15:55, DK7FC wrote: > > Hi Rob, > > Am 26.03.2018 19:28, schrieb Rob Renoud: > > Very nice - thanks for you detailed reception reports for the hours > between 00:00 and 06:00 and, of course, the decode at 03:00. > > No problem. > That's the path: http://k7fry.com/grid/?qth=3DFM18QI&from=3Djn49ik > Not bad for the first attempt and such a message in rather poor conds! > > I believe the tests have shown that EbNaut may well be a viable QSO mode > for LF and that my TX station is working well. > Implementing RX capability for EbNaut is my next goal. > > Good. Winodws or Linux? :-) > > In the mean time, do you see a need to continue with further EbNaut Trial > transmissions from my station? > > For me it is fine. And you know that it's working. In the end it is your > decision, if you like, then continue. > > EbNaut needs a stable phase and it could be interesting to see how regula= r > a reasonably phase stability can be expected. > I would focus on messages taking up to 25 minutes and contain 15 > characters because this could be a useful choice for later QSO modes usin= g > 30 minute sequences. > > Also you never know who's trying to decode you. People are different. Som= e > say "I'm now preparing my RX to receive you" and then "Now i am ready to > receive you this night" an then "Here is my report, i have no copy becaus= e > the local noise was too strong, but tomorrow the QRM should be lower > because...." and so on. Other people may do the same work and have the sa= me > issues but tell nothing until they can report a successful decode! :-) > If you are on the air and offer a possibility to other to detect you, you > can only rise activity, and that's most important! > > 73, Stefan > > > > > > > --001a114e7e0a88b4c105686a4998 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi LF,

Yes, Stefan, with a unique recording file started manual= ly and normal OpDS settings ("Wolf method").
Many thanks and GE all.

All the best


73 de Riccardo IW4DXW

=


Il Mar 27 Mar 2018, 17:13 Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com= > ha scritto:
Co= ngratulations Ric and Rob!

On their way to Italy, two of las= t night's transmissions also stopped by in Nuremberg, 3 UT (3.0 dB) and= 4 UT (2.0 dB).

Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)



-= ----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Rob Renoud <k3rwr@md.metrocast.net>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Di, 27. Mrz 2018 1= 4:01
Betreff: Re: LF: K3RWR LF EbNaut Trial #2

Riccardo,

Wow - well done at your QTH!

Tran= smitting at 1W EIRP here.=C2=A0 Antenna is a 12.4m vertical wire with 140m = of top loading.

I will transmit overnight 27/28 Ma= rch again with the 30 character message repeating every hour.=C2=A0 Will th= en switch to a 20 character message with 1 second symbol period repeating e= very half hour.=C2=A0 Will post the details of the new message on this web = site.

Thanks & 73,
Rob - K3RWR
=





On Mar= 27, 2018, at 05:00, Riccardo Zoli <riccardozoli80@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi Rob, Markus, Stefan, LF

C= ongrats for recent LF EbNaut success!

Last night, = I have decoded your message here in JN64bw (Ariano). This is a new L= F EbNaut W->E QRB record: 7048 km.
UTC 0200,=C2=A0Eb= /N0 =3D 2.2 dB=C2=A0(see attachments).

<= div>My rig is a homebrew SDR, clocked by a GPSDO. The antenna is an inverte= d L 12m height, 36m long.


All the b= est


73 de Riccardo IW4DXW





201= 8-03-27 1:29 GMT+02:00 Rob Renoud <k3rwr@md.metrocast.net>:
Stephan,

Thank you for your most insig= htful, and correct comments.

I will continue to ex= plore EbNaut as a communications and QSO mode on 2200m.=C2=A0 Your suggesti= on to focus on messages taking up to 25 minutes and containing 15 character= s fits well with using EbNaut as a QSO mode. =C2=A0

I have both Windows and Linux computers - plan on starting with Windows a= nd transition to Linux as I gain confidence with EbNaut RX.

<= /div>
Tnx & 73,
Rob - K3RWR

On Mar 26, 2018,= at 15:55, DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo= .de> wrote:

=20 Hi Rob,

Am 26.03.2018 19:28, schrieb Rob Renoud:
=20
Very nice - thanks for you detailed reception reports for the hours between 00:00 and 06:00 and, of course, the decode at 03:00.
No problem.
That's the path: http://k7fry.com/grid/?qth=3DFM18QI&= from=3Djn49ik
Not bad for the first attempt and such a message in rather poor conds!

I believe the tests have shown that EbNaut may well be a viable QSO mode for LF and that my TX station is working well.
Implementing RX capability for EbNaut is my next goal.
Good. Winodws or Linux? :-)

In the mean time, do you see a need to continue with further EbNaut Trial transmissions from my station?
For me it is fine. And you know that it's working. In the end it is your decision, if you like, then continue.

EbNaut needs a stable phase and it could be interesting to see how regular a reasonably phase stability can be expected.
I would focus on messages taking up to 25 minutes and contain 15 characters because this could be a useful choice for later QSO modes using 30 minute sequences.

Also you never know who's trying to decode you. People are different. Some say "I'm now preparing my RX to receive you" and then &q= uot;Now i am ready to receive you this night" an then "Here is my report, i ha= ve no copy because the local noise was too strong, but tomorrow the QRM should be lower because...." and so on. Other people may do the same work and have the same issues but tell nothing until they can report a successful decode! :-)
If you are on the air and offer a possibility to other to detect you, you can only rise activity, and that's most important!

73, Stefan

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