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Content preview: Paul, first TA full 2way QSOs on 136 in 2001: from Feb 5 to Feb 19 VA3LK and G3AQC Feb 13 VE1ZJ(RX) + VE1ZZ(TX) and G3LDO 2001-Mar-15 DARC, RSBG and AMRAD - the sponsors of the Trans-Atlantic Challenge have decided to present awards to Larry VA3LK, Laurie G3AQC, Jack VE1ZZ, John VE1ZJ and Peter G3LDO for their contacts [...] Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (r7nt.73[at]gmail.com) 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (r7nt.73[at]gmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.1 URIBL_SBL_A Contains URL's A record listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: n1bug.com] 0.6 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL's NS IP listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: n1bug.com] 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: b14bcaca65d4b584f77d02a84d381cb4 Subject: Re: LF: Important question on LF QSOs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113f08920994630568158b1d" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --001a113f08920994630568158b1d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Paul, first TA full 2way QSOs on 136 in 2001: from Feb 5 to Feb 19 VA3LK and G3AQC Feb 13 VE1ZJ(RX) + VE1ZZ(TX) and G3LDO 2001-Mar-15 DARC, RSBG and AMRAD - the sponsors of the Trans-Atlantic Challenge have decided to present awards to Larry VA3LK, Laurie G3AQC, Jack VE1ZZ, John VE1ZJ and Peter G3LDO for their contacts 73! Alex R7NT 136.73.ru 2018-03-23 15:38 GMT+03:00 N1BUG : > LF / 2200 meter community, > > I am a little afraid to ask this question. I don't want to start a > "war" here. But... > > What is the feeling in the LF community about a QSO (DFCW or QRSS) > which takes more than a single night to complete? Is this OK or will > it be seen as cheating? > > I am a very conservative operator but I cannot think of any reason > why a QSO spanning a few nights would not be perfectly OK. To me it > seems that's just taking advantage of available propagation and > (very slow) modes which can get information across. > > I do think that if the operators stop for some nights, the QSO > should reset to the beginning because that is a new attempt. > > I'm trying to find out what the community feels about this. I want > to be a respectable member of this community, not an invading > outlaw. ;-) If a QSO taking a few nights is considered evil, I won't > do it. Now is your chance to educate me. > > 73, > Paul N1BUG > > --001a113f08920994630568158b1d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Paul,
first TA full 2way QSOs on 136 in 2001:
from Feb 5 to=C2=A0Feb 19=C2=A0 =C2=A0VA3LK and= G3AQC
Feb 13=C2=A0 =C2=A0VE1ZJ(RX) + VE1ZZ(TX) and G3LDO
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2001-Mar-15 DARC, RSBG and AMRAD - the sponsors of the Tran= s-Atlantic Challenge have decided to present awards to Larry VA3LK, Laurie = G3AQC, Jack VE1ZZ, John VE1ZJ and Peter G3LDO for their contacts

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73! Alex R7NT =C2=A0136= .73.ru

2018-03-23 15:38 GMT+03:00 N1BUG <paul@n1bug= .com>:
LF / 2200 meter comm= unity,

I am a little afraid to ask this question. I don't want to start a
"war" here. But...

What is the feeling in the LF community about a QSO (DFCW or QRSS)
which takes more than a single night to complete? Is this OK or will
it be seen as cheating?

I am a very conservative operator but I cannot think of any reason
why a QSO spanning a few nights would not be perfectly OK. To me it
seems that's just taking advantage of available propagation and
(very slow) modes which can get information across.

I do think that if the operators stop for some nights, the QSO
should reset to the beginning because that is a new attempt.

I'm trying to find out what the community feels about this. I want
to be a respectable member of this community, not an invading
outlaw. ;-) If a QSO taking a few nights is considered evil, I won't do it. Now is your chance to educate me.

73,
Paul N1BUG


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