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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Looking at some large pot cores , I was struck by this novel idea. Back in the very early days of 10GHz with wideband equipment, we tuned Gunn oscillator using a dielectric probe on a micrometer head - that allowed precise adjustment with a repeatable reading. Looking at my gapped pot cores, it occurred to me something similar could be done with them. 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Back in the very early days of 10GHz with wideband equipment, we tuned Gunn oscillator using a dielectric probe on a micrometer head - that allowed precise adjustment with a repeatable reading. Looking at my gapped pot cores, it occurred to me something similar could be done with them. Fix, somehow, one half core to the micrometer so it can me pulled away from the other allowing a precise air gap. Of course, doing it this way means you have a gap in outer and inner pieces, so the effective gap is double the measured value Inductance is then uo * A / g where uo is mag permaeability of free space, 4E-7 * pi A is the core area and g the adjustable gap (SI units) You'd have to watch out for saturation (V= 4.44 . N.A.B) but as a small adjuster to a larger fixed loading coil at low frequencies, may have some merit for fine repeatable setting Just a thought Andy G4JNT --089e082f5544d7b4ec0567e8b998 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Looking at some large pot cores , I was struck by this nov= el idea.

Back in the very early days of 10GHz with wideband eq= uipment, we tuned Gunn oscillator using a dielectric probe on a micrometer = head - that allowed precise adjustment with a repeatable reading.=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 Looking at my gapped pot cores, it occurred to me something similar cou= ld be done with them.

Fix, somehow, one half= core to the micrometer so it can me pulled away from the other allowing a = precise air gap.=C2=A0 Of course, doing it this way means you have a gap in= outer and inner pieces, so the effective gap is double the measured value<= /div>

Inductance is then uo * A / g=C2=A0 =C2=A0 where u= o is mag permaeability of free space, 4E-7 * pi=C2=A0 =C2=A0A is the core a= rea and g the adjustable gap=C2=A0 (SI units)=C2=A0

You'd have to watch out for saturation (V=3D 4.44 . N.A.B) but as a s= mall adjuster to a larger fixed loading coil at low frequencies,=C2=A0 may = have some merit for fine repeatable setting

Just a= thought

Andy=C2=A0 G4JNT
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