Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id w2TNeBPS002242 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 01:40:14 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1f1h3Z-0008OH-Dv for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 00:34:09 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1f1h3Y-0008O8-MB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 00:34:08 +0100 Received: from mail-wm0-f42.google.com ([74.125.82.42]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f1h3S-0005VL-CJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 00:34:07 +0100 Received: by mail-wm0-f42.google.com with SMTP id h76so13319879wme.4 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:34:01 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Gg601BgxiQxTg+CQRSbIMihACYhtw0yGhKKlBuLvAyc=; b=NEwqq1jcTghf1i6B0lqJLtYWr9lUP4uPUZUPTukPT2YBT3j6ek8M2H3UwBNcZMaC3R 0IbbkFSWnkpaAJA3unMBSsFdczk9Z6CEegclJUGk0L/6ool+6rSnk9diWN+nAva4I2QK d19hVbdYisnTSTPYwgg4XdAlPnlfnZScAC+adgy5GQAzu2b8syEj3zhujVPM9VBsdsRI MUrL2lGX8c19JTYQQgnj1WE3oRAYAJSyURhweVHgpCjpk9rgYxdXvo+OvsT004jpsXc7 YgcRTjuRV8G1XONePzlB+fI81uhj5GXa30/dg2TkyFaQY3+qOoxtEXhtqMcE+JNf/5ZE vXPg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Gg601BgxiQxTg+CQRSbIMihACYhtw0yGhKKlBuLvAyc=; b=Zr2CFMl0sCdRioHAtJUfkkHunkyQpOTtldiISIV/WiOKtRiE+7FRrP6EG7oG5dEUzX Ef7IZoDOdfOHv9MUyvyna9zXG7AWDlnywimSAfBn+RMhuiFKa81PUC3lHo6YRfkfbKHG aE+nSrQgYZ1TPeMVmCdwg8+QaRnj4Fq9aTR0xCnrnS4aACjSQzAnkuXWWoO7pArnu7yX UBp1/SmMb8N/s9z5ITUw2IfHrR3is/8eM9mSpXHTUTX31FHiqxtHZW6SGx/e0lDl4Cx5 WWs6wPg4mqjRVbQzieZfsq3tx3M5Ba7dcqnhrKC+zyB3tQYLiiHqDZsVgNtO7Jc78w8h fCJA== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7HqZJvF2b/P+DW3UbjFk+6IaDrnp2W0TW1b1PelZShw/rZWeIiy sA2S3JQxPuHmY3I1+P4a6bJX16AHD1xdL77v+7Vc5B6m X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4+kKIOjTa9cIwNm/OF36nm2mav3dx6UCPc0fGXF3HP71ueAEgPgu5FaUziMeCMHe0zlf5MRg26QD3Dj+e67Q+I= X-Received: by 10.80.144.54 with SMTP id b51mr730447eda.194.1522366380556; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:33:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.154.195 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:33:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9a5947b6-af50-85f9-39d7-6221e3bcd85a@n1bug.com> References: <9a5947b6-af50-85f9-39d7-6221e3bcd85a@n1bug.com> From: Andy Talbot Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 00:33:00 +0100 Message-ID: To: LineOne X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Take a look at http://www.g4jnt.com/137tx.pdf All the equations you need are in there and "single ended" in that context refers to class A / B not E Class E is a special (quasi resonant) type of switching transmitter [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (andy.g4jnt[at]gmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.6 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL's NS IP listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: n1bug.com] 0.1 URIBL_SBL_A Contains URL's A record listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: n1bug.com] 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 9d01e9df836df8dd3868645661e1c1f7 Subject: Re: LF: Pout vs V for class D amp? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045c258454c4950568958b1c" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --f403045c258454c4950568958b1c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Take a look at http://www.g4jnt.com/137tx.pdf All the equations you need are in there and "single ended" in that context refers to class A / B not E Class E is a special (quasi resonant) type of switching transmitter Andy On 29 March 2018 at 23:18, N1BUG wrote: > Some months back, Andy gave me this formula for calculating power > out of a single ended (class E) PA. It has been very helpful. > > Pout max = Vdd ^2 / 2 / RL > > Is there a similar formula to calculate power out of a class D > voltage mode PA (such as the W1VD design)? > > I'm almost finished building my W1VD PA and I am wondering what > power output I can expect at different power supply voltages. I need > to make some sensible decisions about power supplies... > > Thanks, > Paul N1BUG > > --f403045c258454c4950568958b1c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Take a look at=C2=A0http://www.g4jnt.com/137tx.pdf
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On 29 March 2018 at 23:18, N1BUG <= span dir=3D"ltr"><pa= ul@n1bug.com> wrote:
Some m= onths back, Andy gave me this formula for calculating power
out of a single ended (class E) PA. It has been very helpful.

Pout max =3D Vdd ^2 / 2 / RL

Is there a similar formula to calculate power out of a class D
voltage mode PA (such as the W1VD design)?

I'm almost finished building my W1VD PA and I am wondering what
power output I can expect at different power supply voltages. I need
to make some sensible decisions about power supplies...

Thanks,
Paul N1BUG


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