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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Rob, EbNaut, LF, Please do share details of how you modulate the 3325 for EbNaut. I would like to try some experiments to see if I can transmit. I am a long way from receiving capability as I think that is going to take all new hardware and a very different approach to what I am using now. 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I would like to try some experiments to see if I can transmit. I am a long way from receiving capability as I think that is going to take all new hardware and a very different approach to what I am using now. By the way Rob, your signal is strong here, seen and heard but of course I have no way to decode it. 73, Paul N1BUG On 03/24/2018 05:56 PM, Rob Renoud wrote: > Paul & LF, > > I am using an HP3325A with an external GPS-stabilized 10 MHz > reference as the exciter for my current EbNaut transmissions on > 2200m. The 3325 feeds my Hafler 9505 amplifier through a > MiniCircuits ZHL-32A preamplifier that is part of my regular > 2200m tx system. > > The 180 degree phase shift modulation is accomplished in the 3325 > through the application of control voltages to the external phase > modulation input port on the 3325. I can provide the details > of the control setup as used here. > > Hope this helps regarding use of the HP3325 for EbNaut TX. > > 73, Rob - K3RWR > >> On Mar 24, 2018, at 10:12, N1BUG wrote: >> >>> On 03/24/2018 09:18 AM, VIGILANT Luis Fernández wrote: >>> >>> Anyway would be interesting to discuss the hardware needed >>> for decoding EbNaut in LF Would help others to figure out how >>> to start using their stations already decoding WSPR, etc >> >> Yes, please! We need help! >> >> I have similar questions as Luis. >> >> I'm using a simple home built SDR feeding I/Q to a sound card, >> HDSDR output to a virtual cable (VB Cable). >> >> Do I need to worry about sample rate correction on VB Cable? If >> so is there any way to do it? >> >> Do I need to worry about sample rate on the sound card which >> is receiving I/Q from the SDR? If so, is there any way to do >> it? Both left and right channel are in use. >> >> What about time stamping? There are some delays I think in >> HDSDR. I don't know if there is any way to work around this. >> >> I would need a more stable LO for the SDR than its present >> crystal oscillator! I still don't know how to do this at >> reasonable cost. I suppose it will require a GPSDO which could >> output 450 kHz or something around there, but I have no >> practical idea how to do this. The more I read, the more >> confused I become. >> >> By the way I have a HP 3325B. Is this of any use for either >> the receiver LO or for transmitting EbNaut? It has the internal >> high stability option but I assume this is nowhere near good >> enough. It can accept external reference at 1 or 10 MHz but I >> do not know if this can make it good enough for anything. It >> also has a Phase mod input, but I know nothing about this. >> >> 73, Paul N1BUG