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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Very interesting Jay. To my knowledge we don't have a DK7FC equivalent these days and I'm not aware of anyone transmitting DFCW with enough EIRP to make it even on the best winter nights. I really need to stop doing WSPR and transmit DFCW for a few nights to see if I appear on any of the remaining European grabbers. [...] Content analysis details: (0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.6 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL's NS IP listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: n1bug.com] 0.1 URIBL_SBL_A Contains URL's A record listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: n1bug.com] X-Scan-Signature: 64a43ebf6189d3fbac7adf77f3718769 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 2200m Trans-Atlantic QSO dream... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Very interesting Jay. To my knowledge we don't have a DK7FC equivalent these days and I'm not aware of anyone transmitting DFCW with enough EIRP to make it even on the best winter nights. I really need to stop doing WSPR and transmit DFCW for a few nights to see if I appear on any of the remaining European grabbers. Aside from that I plan to continue WSPR-15 transmissions into the late spring and summer to see what happens. It would be interesting if there were a big station in Europe transmitting WSPR-15 on the opposite sequence. Or, a big station transmitting DFCW (this would require alternate NA/EU transmit nights however, as I cannot receive while transmitting. 73, Paul N1BUG WI2XTC On 03/21/2018 07:21 AM, jrusgrove@comcast.net wrote: > Many years back, Stefan DK7FC's 137 kHz T/A DFCW was received here > every month of the year ... and it's not like we had to try every > night of the month for success ... even during the summer. If the > DST was favorable any relatively low noise night worked. >   > Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2    >   >   > > *----- Original Message -----* > *From:* N1BUG > > *Reply-To:* > > *To:* > > *Sent:* 3/21/2018 6:11:40 AM > *Subject:* Re: LF: Re: 2200m Trans-Atlantic QSO dream... > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > I'm well aware propagation can be good even in mid summer, just as > it is on 160m (where I have 297 DXCC worked so I've been around a > while). > > QRN is the "season creator" here. Last year trans-Atlantic WSPR-2 > decodes ceased in late March due to rising static. I'm seeing the > same huge increase this March. I don't know what the band actually > sounds like in Europe or what happens later in the spring/summer. > But looking at lightning maps over the past few weeks I can make a > good guess we have significantly higher static levels than you do. > > Of course on the plus side we don't have DCF39. :) I rarely see it > mentioned but isn't HGHA22 a nightmare too? It's often stronger than > DCF39 over here. I have my fast, wide waterfall set so I can see > both of them. They do make nice relative propagation indicators. > > I did see some evidence that DFCW can cut through the mess later > into the season as I had full call sign copy on DF6NM and DF2JP in > April 2017. > > 73, > Paul N1BUG