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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi EbNaut Yes, Lynux is surely great but we dummies use Windows. So let's see can we do there ;-) Paul, my Rx is similar to yours. The SDR must be disciplined, then there is a software to deal with the I/Q and produce demodulated USB audio at the dial frequency which then is feeded to Spectrum Lab via VAC. I see no need to compensate sample rates in VAC, as sound sender and sound receiver are using the same clock (derived from PC clock) because all is made in software. May be I'm wrong but as soon as there is no hardware sound card involved there is no need to concern about it in VAC cables [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 982d53dbb4bb82e9ed4f38562b2a1556 Subject: Re: LF: K3RWR LF EbNaut in CT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003ABA3C3D0C4servigilantvigi_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003ABA3C3D0C4servigilantvigi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi EbNaut Yes, Lynux is surely great but we dummies use Windows. So let's see can we = do there ;-) Paul, my Rx is similar to yours. The SDR must be disciplined, then there is= a software to deal with the I/Q and produce demodulated USB audio at the dial frequency which then is feeded to Spectru= m Lab via VAC. I see no need to compensate sample rates in VAC, as sound sender and sound receiver are using the same = clock (derived from PC clock) because all is made in software. May be I'm wrong but as soon as there is no hardware s= ound card involved there is no need to concern about it in VAC cables SL is easy to use as you can load configuration files tailored to your need= s. No need to become a SL expert in one week And to get a disciplined source for your SDR, one way as commented by Stefa= n is a Ublox GPS. I can add another, which is QRPLabs VFO https://www.qrp-labs.com/vfo.html Basically a U3S with different firmware. But the interface is integrated wi= th a knob dial and display. Specially interesting is that you can share your existing GPS for the U3S, so you don't need to b= uy a new one. Then you can generate the required frequency for your SDR and modify it easily if needed I want to make a local test generating EbNaut from a 10Mhz reference source= , divided to somewhere around 137KHz and decode it with my SDR setup Question: To modulate the carrier in EbNaut I will use ebnaut_tx for Window= s http://abelian.org/ebnaut/software_ms.shtml Stefan told about using a simple XOR to shift the phase with the DTR/RTS ou= tput. Does it work for LF or as comments by Paul Nicholson would be better to use a balanced modulator ? 73 de Luis EA5DOM --_000_579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003ABA3C3D0C4servigilantvigi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi EbNaut

Yes, Lynux is surely great but we dummies use Windows. So let's see ca= n we do there  ;-)

Paul, my Rx is similar to yours. The SDR must be disciplined, then the= re is a software to deal with the I/Q and produce
demodulated USB audio at the dial frequency which then is feeded to Sp= ectrum Lab via VAC. I see no need to compensate
sample rates in VAC, as sound sender and sound receiver are using the = same clock (derived from PC clock) because all
is made in software. May be I'm wrong but as soon as there is no hardw= are sound card involved there is no need to concern
about it in VAC cables

SL is easy to use as you can load configuration files tailored to your= needs. No need to become a SL expert in one week

And to get a disciplined source for your SDR, one way as commented by Stefan is a Ublox GPS. I can add anot= her, which is QRPLabs VFO
Basically a U3S with different firmware. But the interface is integrat= ed with a knob dial and display. Specially interesting
is that you can share your existing GPS for the U3S, so you don't need= to buy a new one. Then you can generate the required
frequency for your SDR and modify it easily if needed

I want to make a local test generating EbNaut from a 10Mhz reference s= ource, divided to somewhere around 137KHz
and decode it with my SDR setup

Question: To modulate the carrier in EbNaut I will use ebnaut_tx for W= indows http://abelian.org/ebnaut/software_ms.shtml
Stefan told about using a simple XOR to shift the phase with the DTR/R= TS output. Does it work for LF or as comments by
Paul Nicholson would be better to use a balanced modulator ?

73 de Luis
EA5DOM
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