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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Alan, the loss depends on the design. For a wilkinson divider/combiner with about 30dB port isolation it's 3dB for each port, for a hybrid divider/combiner with 40dB port isolation it's 6dB. I agree on the protection from out of band signals for LW by the diplexer's low pass. 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For a wilkinson divider/combiner with about 30dB port isolation it's 3dB for each port, for a hybrid divider/combiner with 40dB port isolation it's 6dB. I agree on the protection from out of band signals for LW by the diplexer's low pass. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Alan Melia >Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:10 PM >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: LF: Re: RE: Antenna splitter question > >Hi Clemens I agree with that but the splitter loses you 6dB on >both sides >against the diplexer :-)) Probably not significant at LF/MF >but it can give >some protection against out of band big signals. > >Alan >G3NYK > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Clemens Paul" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 2:36 PM >Subject: LF: RE: Antenna splitter question > > >> Hello Chris, >> >> if you use the common broadband design you surely can listen >> on LW and MW at the same time with a power splitter,e.g.like here >> https://ww2.minicircuits.com/app/AN10-001.pdf >> A diplexer is only necessary if you want to transmit on different >> frequencies at the same time >> on one antenna. >> >> 73 >> Clemens >> DL4RAJ >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Wilson >>>Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 11:21 PM >>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>Cc: dead.fets@gmail.com >>>Subject: LF: Antenna splitter question >>> >> >> > > > >--- >Diese E-Mail wurde von AVG auf Viren geprüft. >http://www.avg.com >