Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id w2PKbFNE017150 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 22:37:17 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1f0CIP-000414-KR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 21:31:17 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1f0CHz-00040v-0z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 21:30:51 +0100 Received: from omr-a018e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f0CHu-0003LT-Lt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 21:30:49 +0100 Received: from mtaomg-aaf02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aaf02.mx.aol.com [172.26.127.100]) by omr-a018e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id ECB7B38000AF for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 16:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-ace06e.mail.aol.com (core-ace06.mail.aol.com [172.27.23.6]) by mtaomg-aaf02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9DD7738000082 for ; Sun, 25 Mar 2018 16:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 188.194.222.230 by webjasstg-vaa29.srv.aolmail.net (10.96.25.32) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 25 Mar 2018 16:30:42 -0400 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 16:30:42 -0400 From: Markus Vester To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-Id: <1625edb22aa-c86-56a4@webjasstg-vaa29.srv.aolmail.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: JAS STD X-Originating-IP: [188.194.222.230] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1522009842; bh=/Ndv74GeZ36+Xfk4+iosf2cRBCHZiKx7qNLan/K3sH0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BwJkSOMgtvnwhwfM9DHMRHF6xSGrPO56d34pWffoGHiXtszcSp0JXLEbq6LuOUkDE GhcB4GOum9U1TQNsXdBuzx8nJXF6MzQ+Pottbm2VeUVSPcDptrQqBiuF27KyK+hp4b repF1Wbu6/xztDprI+/MYSK0/Tid15ICIN7sE2tI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7f645ab806f20614 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Rob, my preference would be to stay in the "Opera" subband 137.45 to 137.55 kHz, where a few of us are already running 24/7 SpecLab instances with "opds" data export. These files can easily be re-used to pick up EbNaut transmissions of up to half-hour duration. Here in Europe, sharing the band with Opera and WSPR users has not caused significant issues yet. Recently LF Ebnauteers have often gathered on three spot frequencies, 137485, 137490 and 137495 Hz. Domenico IZ7SLZ has been running automatic EbNaut Decoders with various settings on these. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 719233b489c0727505743c30ad56ff81 Subject: Re: LF: K3RWR LF EbNaut Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26615_1094187741.1522009842346" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------=_Part_26615_1094187741.1522009842346 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rob, my preference would be to stay in the "Opera" subband 137.45 to 137.55 kHz,= where a few of us are already running 24/7 SpecLab instances with "opds" d= ata export. These files can easily be re-used to pick up EbNaut transmissi= ons of up to half-hour duration. Here in Europe, sharing the band with Oper= a and WSPR users has not caused significant issues yet. Recently LF Ebnaute= ers have often gathered on three spot frequencies, 137485, 137490 and 13749= 5 Hz. Domenico IZ7SLZ has been running automatic EbNaut Decoders with vario= us settings on these. All the best, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Rob Renoud An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: So, 25. Mrz 2018 22:05 Betreff: Re: LF: K3RWR LF EbNaut Hi Markus, Thanks for the decodes and information for the Sat/Sun period! Another st= rong showing reflecting the robustness of your RX station. If I were to move to a different tx frequency within the 2200m band, are th= ere better frequencies for you than my current 137.395 KHz? The weather is= much nicer now and I can retune the antenna tuning unit as needed. Thanks again & 73, Rob - K3RWR On Mar 25, 2018, at 15:24, Markus Vester wrote: Hi Rob, nice decodes again last night (Sat/Sun), but the wee hours were not as quie= t as the night before: 180324-25 start Eb/N0=20 UT dB 0230 8.3 0330 3.1 0400 6.3 0430 9.5 0500 3.4=20 0530 2.9 Thanks Paul for pointing out my error regarding the wav file center frequen= cy. It didn't affect the decodes and has been fixed now. Let's see how the longer message will fare tonight... Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Rob Renoud An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: So, 25. Mrz 2018 1:45 Betreff: Re: LF: K3RWR LF EbNaut Markus and LF EbNaut, Wow! Thanks for your reports and I=E2=80=99m very happy to see early succe= ss of EbNaut trials across the Atlantic on 2200m. Gary, K3SIW, reported successful decodes at 21.94 dB, 9.8 dB and 12.61 dB.= =20 Jay, W1VD, reported a successful decodes with the best at 28.28 dB. Paul, N1BUG, reported my carrier was =E2=80=9Cvery strong=E2=80=9D at his Q= TH. I=E2=80=99m running the same message tonight at 1W EIRP. Thanks to all for the reports & 73, Rob - K3RWR On Mar 24, 2018, at 19:34, Markus Vester wrote: Hi Rob, got several valid decodes here in Nuremberg, best from the 5 UT transmissio= n (screenshots attached). The signal was so strong that the spread PSK beca= me visible in a spectrogram as a faint noise band.=20 Here's a list of all successful decodes between 22:00 and 6:30: start Eb/N0 UT dB 0100 3.3 0230 5.5 0300 1.7 0330 1.1 0430 9.9 0500 11.9 0530 4.6 Thanks Rob for the good work! 73, Markus=20 DF6NM in JN59NJ -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Rob Renoud An: RSGG_LF Verschickt: Fr, 23. Mrz 2018 16:08 Betreff: LF: K3RWR LF EbNaut LF, I am running trial LF EbNaut transmissions this weekend as follows: Start Time: Currently Running Stop Time: 25 Mar 1300 UTC Freq: 137.395 KHz Code Rate: 1/8K=3D19 CRC: 24 Symbol Period: 3 sec Message Text: K3RWR Characters: 5, Number of Signal Bits: 576 Duration: 00:28:48:00 Transmissions Start on Hour & Half Hour Power: 0.5W EIRP The objectives are to test my station transmitting equipment on EbNaut and = asses all signal reports and decode reports. Note: I will be able to move t= o a lower frequency in the band once the weather improves and I can impleme= nt changes to the antenna tuning unit. Reports and comments welcome! Tnx & 73, Rob - K3RWR FM18qi ------=_Part_26615_1094187741.1522009842346 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Rob,

my preference would be to&nbs= p;stay in the "Opera" subband 137.45 to 137.55 kHz, where a few of us = are already running 24/7 SpecLab instances with "opds" data export. Th= ese files can easily be re-used to pick up  EbNaut transmissions of up= to half-hour duration. Here in Europe, sharing the band with Opera and WSP= R users has not caused significant issues yet. Recently LF Ebnaut= eers have often gathered on three spot frequencies, 137485, 13749= 0 and 137495 Hz. Domenico IZ7SLZ has been running automatic EbNaut Dec= oders with various settings on these.

All the best,
Markus (DF6NM= )


-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mi= tteilung-----
Von: Rob Renoud <k3rwr@md.metrocast.net>= ;
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: So, 25. Mrz 2018 22:05
Betreff: Re: = LF: K3RWR LF EbNaut

Hi Markus,

Thanks for the decodes and information for the  Sat/= Sun period!  Another strong showing reflecting the robustness of your = RX station.

If= I were to move to a different tx frequency within the 2200m band, are ther= e better frequencies for you than my current 137.395 KHz?  The weather= is much nicer now and I can retune the antenna tuning unit as needed.

Thanks again &= 73,
Rob - K3RWR

On Mar 25, 2018, at 15:24, Markus Vester <marku= svester@aol.com> wrote:

Hi Rob,

nice decodes again last nig= ht (Sat/Sun), but the wee hours were not as quiet as the night before:=

180324-25
start Eb/N0
 UT    dB

0230=    8.3
0330   3.1
0400&nb= sp;  6.3
0430   9.5
0500 =   3.4
0530   2.9

Thanks Paul for pointing out my error regarding the wav file cente= r frequency. It didn't affect the decodes and has been fixed now.

Let's see how the longer message will fare tonig= ht...

Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)=

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: Rob Renoud <k3rwr@md.metrocas= t.net>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: So= , 25. Mrz 2018 1:45
Betreff: Re: LF: K3RWR LF EbNaut

Markus and LF EbNaut,

Wow!  Thanks for your reports and I=E2=80=99m very happy to see = early success of EbNaut trials across the Atlantic on 2200m.

Gary, K3SIW, reported successful decodes at 21.94 = dB, 9.8 dB and 12.61 dB. 

Jay, W= 1VD, reported a successful decodes with the best at 28.28 dB.

Paul, N1BUG, reported my carrier was =E2=80=9Cvery= strong=E2=80=9D at his QTH.

I=E2=80= =99m running the same message tonight at 1W EIRP.
Thanks to all for the reports & 73,
= Rob - K3RWR

On Mar 24, 2018, at 19:34= , Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com> wro= te:

Hi Rob,

got several valid decodes here in Nuremb= erg, best from the 5 UT transmission (screenshots attached). The signal was= so strong that the spread PSK became visible in a spectrogram as a faint n= oise band.

Here's a list of a= ll successful decodes between 22:00 and 6:30:
=
start  Eb/N0
 UT    = ; dB
0100   3.3
0230   5.= 5
0300   1.7
0330   1.10430   9.9
0500  11.9
0530   4.6

Tha= nks Rob for the good work!

73,= Markus
DF6NM in JN59NJ



-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Rob Renoud <k3rwr@md.metrocast.ne= t>
An: RSGG_LF <rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Fr, 23. Mrz 20= 18 16:08
Betreff: LF: K3RWR LF EbNaut

LF,

I am running trial LF EbN= aut transmissions this weekend as follows:

S= tart Time: Currently Running
Stop Time: 25 Mar 1300 UTCFreq: 137.395 KHz
Code Rate: 1/8K=3D19
CRC: 24
Symbol Period: 3 sec
Messag= e Text: K3RWR
Characters: 5, Number of Signal Bits: 576Duration: 00:28:48:00
Transmissions Start on H= our & Half Hour
Power: 0.5W EIRP

The objectives are to test my station transmitting equipment on Eb= Naut and asses all signal reports and decode reports. Note: I will be abl= e to move to a lower frequency in the band once the weather improves and I = can implement changes to the antenna tuning unit.

Reports and comments welcome!

Tnx &= ; 73,
Rob - K3RWR FM18qi




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