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Content preview: Hello Andy, do you mean something like this: http://www.wireless.org.uk/dk5pt-f.htm? ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T [...] Content analysis details: (-0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST BODY: HTML font color similar or identical to background 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 4c68a2de3e8889496b681f3e16d4f49a Subject: LF: Re: [rsgb_lf_group] Idea for tuned inductor Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_152162465472099564kuleuvenbe_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,HTML_WEB_BUGS,PORN_4 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --_000_152162465472099564kuleuvenbe_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Andy, do you mean something like this: http://www.wireless.org.uk/dk5pt-f.htm? ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________ Van: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk name= ns Andy Talbot andy.g4jnt@gmail.com [rsgb_lf_group] Verzonden: woensdag 21 maart 2018 10:22 Aan: rsgb_lf_group; LineOne Onderwerp: [rsgb_lf_group] Idea for tuned inductor Looking at some large pot cores , I was struck by this novel idea. Back in the very early days of 10GHz with wideband equipment, we tuned Gunn= oscillator using a dielectric probe on a micrometer head - that allowed pr= ecise adjustment with a repeatable reading. Looking at my gapped pot cor= es, it occurred to me something similar could be done with them. Fix, somehow, one half core to the micrometer so it can me pulled away from= the other allowing a precise air gap. Of course, doing it this way means = you have a gap in outer and inner pieces, so the effective gap is double th= e measured value Inductance is then uo * A / g where uo is mag permaeability of free spac= e, 4E-7 * pi A is the core area and g the adjustable gap (SI units) You'd have to watch out for saturation (V=3D 4.44 . N.A.B) but as a small a= djuster to a larger fixed loading coil at low frequencies, may have some m= erit for fine repeatable setting Just a thought Andy G4JNT __._,_.___ ________________________________ Posted by: Andy Talbot ________________________________ Reply via web post * Reply = to sender * Reply to group * Start a new= topic * = Messages in this topic (1) Visit Your Group [Yahoo! Groups] * Privacy * Un= subscribe * Terms of Use . __,_._,___ --_000_152162465472099564kuleuvenbe_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello Andy,


do you mean something like this: http://www.wireless.org.uk/dk5pt-f.htm​ ?


73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



Van: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogro= ups.co.uk <rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk> namens Andy Talbot andy.g= 4jnt@gmail.com [rsgb_lf_group] <rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk>
Verzonden: woensdag 21 maart 2018 10:22
Aan: rsgb_lf_group; LineOne
Onderwerp: [rsgb_lf_group] Idea for tuned inductor
 
 

Looking at some large pot cores , I was struck by this nov= el idea.

Back in the very early days of 10GHz with wideband equipment, we tuned= Gunn oscillator using a dielectric probe on a micrometer head - that allow= ed precise adjustment with a repeatable reading.    Looking at my= gapped pot cores, it occurred to me something similar could be done with them.

Fix, somehow, one half core to the micrometer so it can me pulled away= from the other allowing a precise air gap.  Of course, doing it this = way means you have a gap in outer and inner pieces, so the effective gap is= double the measured value

Inductance is then uo * A / g    where uo is mag permaeabili= ty of free space, 4E-7 * pi   A is the core area and g the adjust= able gap  (SI units) 

You'd have to watch out for saturation (V=3D 4.44 . N.A.B) but as a sm= all adjuster to a larger fixed loading coil at low frequencies,  may h= ave some merit for fine repeatable setting

Just a thought

Andy  G4JNT

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Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to gr= oup Start a new topic Mes= sages in this topic (1)

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