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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Chris. Isn't the 'noise hump' due to the resonance of your antenna? Mike ===== [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.6 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL's NS IP listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: blog.n1bug.com] 0.1 URIBL_SBL_A Contains URL's A record listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: blog.n1bug.com] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: bf9cd6b3d49c805062abf73a1027fea8 Subject: Re: Re: LF: Do I need an attenuator on LF RX?? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="EdoMail5a81ccd2_216231b_145e" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --EdoMail5a81ccd2_216231b_145e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Chris. Isn't the 'noise hump' due to the resonance of your antenna? Mike ===== > > On 12 Feb 2018 at 16:35, wrote: > > > Hello Mike, Thanks for the reply, it actually has 2 (in series) N1BUG band pass filters in front of it! I have always had this "noise hump" around the band, I once thought the filter (one...) had cured it, but next time I looked it was back. MF is lovely and quiet in comparison. i see exactly the same with a Softrock with or without a BPF. http://blog.n1bug.com/2017/02/01/2200-meter-softrock-lite-ii/ Monday, February 12, 2018, 4:26:13 PM, you wrote: > Chris, > It looks like you have a broadcast station where it shouldn't be (at > 132.65kHz) and several other spurious stations in that area, so you > may well have unwanted signals within the 136kHz band, especially at > night (your recording seems to have been done during the middle of > the day). You might improve things by by-passing the pre-amp. It > would do no harm just by experimenting with an attenuator but why > attenuate and amplify at the same time unless the preamp also > provides another function such a s matching? It seems the only > front-end selectivity on that receiver is a narrow bandpass so you > would really benefit from some additional wider filtering, eg an LPF > with a cut-off just below the LW BC band. > Mike, G3XDV > ========== -- Best regards, Chris mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com > --EdoMail5a81ccd2_216231b_145e Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Chris. Isn't the 'noise hump' due to the= resonance of your antenna=3F 
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On 12 =46eb 2018 at 16:35, <Chris Wilson> wrote:

Hello Mike,

Thanks  for  the  reply, it actually has 2 (in series) N1BUG band pass
filters in front of it=21 I have always had this =22noise hump=22 around =
the
band, I once thought the filter (one...) had cured it, but next time I
looked  it  was  back.   M=46  is  lovely and quiet in comparison. i see
exactly the same with a Softrock with or without a BP=46.

http://blog.n1bug.com/2017/02/01/2200-meter-softrock-lite-ii/

Monday, =46ebruary 12, 2018, 4:26:13 PM, you wrote:

> Chris,

> It looks like you have a broadcast station where it shouldn't be (at=
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> 132.65kHz) and several other spurious stations in that area, so you =
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> may well have unwanted signals within the 136kHz band, especially at=
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> night (your recording seems to have been done during the middle of =20
> the day). You might improve things by by-passing the pre-amp. It =20
> would do no harm just by experimenting with an attenuator but why =20
> attenuate and amplify at the same time unless the preamp also =20
> provides another function such as matching=3F It seems the only =20
> front-end selectivity on that receiver is a narrow bandpass so you =20
> would really benefit from some additional wider filtering, eg an LP=46=
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> with a cut-off just below the LW BC band.

> Mike, G3XDV
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D





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Best regards,
 Chris                            mailto:dead.fets=40gmail.com


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