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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: SRI, сorrectly: "It's like comparing OP8 (~WSPR2) and OP32 (~WSPR15)" 73! Alex R7NT 136.73.ru 2018-02-20 19:50 GMT+03:00 DK7FC : [...] Content analysis details: (0.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (r7nt.73[at]gmail.com) 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (r7nt.73[at]gmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: d0d76c369792b807e0925732d18ad9b1 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR-15 on 136 KHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113f6464357bd80565a7f5bd" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --001a113f6464357bd80565a7f5bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SRI, =D1=81orrectly: "It's like comparing OP8 (~WSPR2) and OP32 (~WSPR15)" 73! Alex R7NT 136.73.ru 2018-02-20 19:50 GMT+03:00 DK7FC : > LF, > > Before WSPR-15 came up in 2011, Markus/DF6NM developed a tool which can > generate and decode WSPR-15 and other WSPR modes. We used WSPR-8 (4 times > slower, +6 dB) and even WSPR-30 (16x slower, +12 dB). The program collect= s > the data from SpectrumLab and replays it faster afterwards, and leads the > output to a normal WSPR decoder. So this fast replayed data can be fed in= to > the new WSJT-X program running in WSPR-2 mode. > I remember positive tests with Jay/W1VD > > If someone is interested, i could look into the details again. I guess th= e > program is still available. Maybe Markus want's to comment. > > 73, Stefan > > Am 20.02.2018 17:33, schrieb Alex R7NT: > > Rob, > I believe that WSPR15 is more viable on 136 at low powers (up to 1W ERP) > on long QRB (compared with WSPR2) :) > It's like comparing OP8 (~WSPR2) and OP32 (~WSPR32). > But OP8 died a few years ago on 136 > > 73! Alex R7NT 136.73.ru > > 2018-02-20 15:32 GMT+03:00 Rob Renoud : > >> >> Two T/A spots from Geoff, G0LUJ, last evening on 2200M at -35dB and -37d= B >> show WSPR-15 to be a viable mode on 136 KHz. I will continue nightly >> WSPR-15 transmissions for the next week or so. >> >> Does anyone have an early release of WSJT-X with the slow JT9 modes >> included? I believe that WSJT-X V. 0.95, r3243 released about 04/2013 = may >> be one release that includes the slow JT9 modes. >> >> 73, >> Rob - K3RWR > > --001a113f6464357bd80565a7f5bd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
SRI, =D1=81orrectly:
"It's like comparing OP8= (~WSPR2) and OP32 (~WSPR15)"

73! Alex R7NT =C2=A0136.73.ru

2018-02= -20 19:50 GMT+03:00 DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.de>:
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LF,

Before WSPR-15 came up in 2011, Markus/DF6NM developed a tool which can generate and decode WSPR-15 and other WSPR modes. We used WSPR-8 (4 times slower, +6 dB) and even WSPR-30 (16x slower, +12 dB). The program collects the data from SpectrumLab and replays it faster afterwards, and leads the output to a normal WSPR decoder. So this fast replayed data can be fed into the new WSJT-X program running in WSPR-2 mode.
I remember positive tests with Jay/W1VD

If someone is interested, i could look into the details again. I guess the program is still available. Maybe Markus want's to comment.

73, Stefan

Am 20.02.2018 17:33, schrieb Alex R7NT:
Rob,
I believe that WSPR15 is more viable on 136 at low powers (up to 1W ERP) on long QRB (compared with WSPR2) :)
It's like comparing OP8 (~WSPR2) and OP32 (~WSPR32).=C2=A0
But OP8 died a few years ago on 136

73! Alex R7NT =C2=A0136.73.ru

2018-02-20 15:32 GMT+03:00 Rob Renoud <k= 3rwr@md.metrocast.net>:

Two T/A spots from Geoff, G0LUJ, last evening on 2200M at -35dB and -37dB show WSPR-15 to be a viable mode on 136 KHz.=C2=A0 I will continue nightly WSPR-15 transmissions for the next week or so.

Does anyone have an early release of WSJT-X with the slow JT9 modes included?=C2=A0 I believe that WSJT-X V. 0.95, r3243 released about 04/2013= =C2=A0 may be one release that includes the slow JT9 modes.

73,
Rob - K3RWR
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