Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id w15IMNPK015689 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2018 19:22:24 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1eilIw-0000bu-4h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 18:15:46 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1eilIv-0000bl-By for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 18:15:45 +0000 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eilIs-0001ca-KU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 18:15:44 +0000 Received: from Clemens0811 ([84.163.185.133]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MeQ43-1eMWWZ2Zix-00QAGm for ; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 19:15:40 +0100 From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB9AB485D3@servigilant.vigilant.local> <5A7377F7.4050802@posteo.de> <017101d39bab$2f0e3710$8d2aa530$@comcast.net> <23159F1ED5BD49AD9654CE5685AFACF6@Clemens0811> <5A75EA08.9090009@posteo.de> <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB9AB4958F@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 19:15:39 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AdOei868JKP1jDY0T42Ta3H5qsDPNgAHx7Lg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:X1ut+DdPYUv2bkuhA8qazKCvADb9tP/T4NcVpM6l+9nAQyv5zPE VbzRAkG+4YLbQeEihf5xegtlYZ7QeWr8yGDTm0Y+bCHSV/BIeXYwb6p4rlzIo5a19+B8t3/ nyBVd2nobJMQtAk6NyNk/U6jWrnOxABFQublqlSJ2+twGjCVUgEbTrY0aaBRmJgK+bG/Rnq 47g1j3WKpxUa66lKrYniA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:w2ITw5alc74=:rsw1wE7naoeEmVCy+fIa7T KkxvJ4F4UoPA2JI81Pem4AITiquLV/uSei/eEGsfWSYuSmPVUGKlguRZ98x62gKIRNiQdDtb9 8ctYDdOlj4gOVJgXutjOIphFAYzKq4pU4F7UF0yU/suxccN9YONnCJbN2awmq8XjKSIg1/rLE Z1BskmhfL56tEZTJrzq2+/AV0PxXeVl2ei3E+FsoyyDLCxx9fHys3+6r6lz67TO0LJM3ywo50 DSSo6Cqp3tV8TulzdOqF4zIJClVuLyPAWf/U6PyT7EOAFXFEfqEqJ99qpg/g8z0MNNyif1LBO rFE0yUAWAci09zJCmuNFYGtii5TlC0ZCL5INVRIgZ48gd4rsTLc0Zb8cFccG93t+tvmudXf5u nGz37zlwSTeMP8qyxuWgNS9W886hVGkGrwuKU1tSwfG3HlZHXpxPpKWWcEYg9PhRdUeYSncQD VmzL5lIFvm5mEkoaUuGFm9mz4kfiyOlfLP9bF44a0oQmCbpG+lIw0qh1aYpp0r8mUdnrgw0Qa akAzxnBqxiXQ9BhVjNf2mCYp11dxgkfrBCpvjMpHOVJcDOzoQDym04ndnUvBek4BTVSesFRrk kqHiW7QhBlelmehlqhGIWEj7nRK17h0IaAmSgyGeRkryKHHfmacdznXnDxod6GHjRAmwehJze QMLeDwhvqsJaNYX1eqQTMJwDYF3YTLrjouOLVyXLUPKKj8P0CGXyLdH18kGv4INiNJfI+h8cI 6DiUjXBVgIe+kZ5xK6w0fR/ryJDamw3rgCYisLp6g7Yqx6x8mHICpjNjB45Ba/FBHhJnDCeKy ofJM7iSkMTwZOniwbJScfgbH2Sf1jWPXTiNU5NOP0DE8pWPc2o= X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Leandro, > I have to say that I am also lacking in theory, but the One of your questions was: [...] Content analysis details: (-0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (cpaul[at]gmx.net) -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: c1f72e5acb1277e013f90c915ad7ad68 Subject: RE: LF: VLF Small magnetic antenna for Tx Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Leandro, > I have to say that I am also lacking in theory, but the One of your questions was: >Can we expect to receive the signal with an electric probe antenna in the near field or the only chance is to be further away ? >From theory there is no doubt that the E-field is still ~ 30.3 times or 29.6dB stronger (V/m vs A/m) than the H-field even in the near field of a magnetic transmitting loop at 38.4kHz and at 100m distance while in the far field the E-field is 51.5dB stronger. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Juan >Leandro Ronda >Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 3:14 PM >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: Re: LF: VLF Small magnetic antenna for Tx > > I have to say that I am also lacking in theory, but the >tests carried out on airborne and core coils have been >