Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id w1RCbLVt005352 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 13:37:22 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1eqeOb-0004Et-Mh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 12:30:13 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1eqeOb-0004Ek-3Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 12:30:13 +0000 Received: from omr-a018e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eqeOX-0000cs-GC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 12:30:11 +0000 Received: from mtaomg-aao01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aao01.mx.aol.com [172.27.21.15]) by omr-a018e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 627EC3800051 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 07:30:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-acb04a.mail.aol.com (core-acb04.mail.aol.com [172.27.24.4]) by mtaomg-aao01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 012E638000082 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2018 07:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from 80.146.228.86 by webjas-vad061.srv.aolmail.net (10.96.35.64) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 27 Feb 2018 07:30:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 07:30:05 -0500 From: Markus Vester To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-Id: <161d73dc79d-1561-1a01@webjas-vad061.srv.aolmail.net> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: JAS STD X-Originating-IP: [80.146.228.86] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1519734607; bh=pXCBuERa5rySZ3b0M5VvMkbIEjBB40v0bbP8XxzHIFQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Oy7IvCcLstYvrcUbz6wKARzVJ+q3NjgOdvGeBvv5D7E1+yni9gM5MfdhTyR0hRRDo 3NE32MeeQMxkRJ3wIvpuW6LGrTGe9OmOIEZHPQjESPKYxTN4L2FzIbVosKl/bvscoH KuykTNjZsC4K0/YwGDy2uNfNcySP9u0Q8yOtRRyg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b150f5a954f4e5703 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Edgar, I think you are seeing both VTX India on 18.2 kHz all day, and HWU France 18.3 kHz mostly during darkness over Asia. During the day HWU also shows some fringes from the superposition long and short path. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 896f9ee4f10c5db37812c155e804756d Subject: Re: LF: DL to VK7 ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7330_733588048.1519734605725" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------=_Part_7330_733588048.1519734605725 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Edgar, I think you are seeing both VTX India on 18.2 kHz all day, and HWU France 1= 8.3 kHz mostly during darkness over Asia. During the day HWU also shows som= e fringes from the superposition long and short path.=20 HWU seems to be around 20 dB SNR in 200 Hz or 43 dBHz. Stefan could probabl= y reach 2.5 mW EMRP on 17.4 kHz, approximately 83 dB less than HWU. So his = signal would arrive at -40 dBHz, requiring 2.8 hours per bit for 0 dB EbN0. Best 73, Markus =20 -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Edgar An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Di, 27. Feb 2018 9:25 Betreff: LF: DL to VK7 ? Is it possible? Reception at Moonah, Tasmania. =20 Regards, Edgar Moonah,Tasmania. ------=_Part_7330_733588048.1519734605725 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Edgar,

I think you are seeing both VTX India o= n 18.2 kHz all day, and HWU France 18.3 kHz mostly during darkness ove= r Asia. During the day HWU also shows some fringes from the superposition l= ong and short path. 

HWU seems to be around 20 dB SNR in 200 Hz= or 43 dBHz. Stefan could probably reach 2.5 mW EMRP on 17.4= kHz, approximately 83 dB less than HWU. So his signal would arri= ve at -40 dBHz, requiring 2.8 hours per bit for 0 dB EbN0.

Best= 73,
Markus
  


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Von: Edgar <ejt2@bigpond.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Di, 27. Feb 2018 9:25
Betre= ff: LF: DL to VK7 ?


Is it possible?  Reception at Moonah, Tasmania.

   

Regards, Edgar
Moonah,Tasmania.
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