Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id w1CGwxjE011926 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 17:59:01 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1elHMy-0006Hy-MI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 16:54:20 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1elHMx-0006Hp-Vo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 16:54:19 +0000 Received: from mail-wr0-x22d.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22d]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1elHMu-0007tR-I3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 16:54:18 +0000 Received: by mail-wr0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id h9so15911095wre.12 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 08:54:16 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:message-id:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:resent-from; bh=LasYGiGN0JPOH1BsLAPGRAdZPOr5FblvfyPZV3WaCBg=; b=dv6AxCVsfvN3BaMiVUBvbxFHmn8zGjaYcNTRwMaWPLFJ5NLoeklRp5fPQd7OmKkCjr fcAxgKAkxHkIqyBPRj4Pc9E5xKQ56WNKnlYp6UztnJisFM2cXU5nB+2WoTCDxmP8m+lV gsynN4KEwjhNiFz6I3dr77mnpRnu6itVgKfm1AB4BcQk8cmiAkybEKDdgs+X5NiVKBJl 33Q0I8DygCpOyJ3h8rN8Uxte4lnLVJGq6lrYrpzGJLFd/u7MtGyIOnCWDJwV4VoPWHf6 FXjRGNT9HYfDnzAmyWMe/2k99GZZf/sQquz98StH6w0Ic2q8K6XGYTyPBDPi9yUtkGFV 2FUg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:message-id:to:subject:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:resent-from; bh=LasYGiGN0JPOH1BsLAPGRAdZPOr5FblvfyPZV3WaCBg=; b=ZlU/XLCJixRCW09Bxo+nxaM/PBsQVP4VXgnG3T9fj4iDiQsjKOWZm2meEYcCs9cG1f 9Jrbp3lHQgjXXFV8ioi8Ox+JkQaQCWYKO62LwoYmCMXTEb8VxWR5il12l+fpiQt+YwEh gPRZm2k88DfoCx0Jjj76FwAtJz7FhUuOLGaucQwNIR57oOfUuUG8vSRtm2WtOnvywgZh KKtPw+NmKuuoDkOZlRDh9kpg2YciZ3nXQFYKRVfYR+O4p0Gft792756v7LSv9E1OsxYU jq3UxeTQYCJZ/e8Ox3Jq9dwyQXnFcyquurg8bf8PT803un7H8rLVpBL/ow8LNmFg3oGj h06w== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPDYMI6SUsGe1hasX/Knkb8jiif6bNyYfePYVIMfIMyX3PB30VS9 nTYJxqZl2opC09hVDNj52kXGEA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x224ooC1t4dJLKO2aR/Y1cFkjqj8yn3jA+B91CzFFPv2q7akRQEd3GzGvGRJGLX8D3GS0duquUQ== X-Received: by 10.223.147.100 with SMTP id 91mr7130788wro.85.1518454455054; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 08:54:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from OfficeWin7.lan (82-70-254-222.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk. [82.70.254.222]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j89sm8297728wrj.45.2018.02.12.08.54.14 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Feb 2018 08:54:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 16:35:59 +0000 From: Chris Wilson X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <146589434.20180212163559@gmail.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <5A81C025.13685.51C8EA38@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> References: <1125097296.20180212141115@gmail.com> <5A81C025.13685.51C8EA38@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Mike, Thanks for the reply, it actually has 2 (in series) N1BUG band pass filters in front of it! I have always had this "noise hump" around the band, I once thought the filter (one...) had cured it, but next time I looked it was back. MF is lovely and quiet in comparison. i see exactly the same with a Softrock with or without a BPF. [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (dead.fets[at]gmail.com) 0.6 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL's NS IP listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: blog.n1bug.com] 0.1 URIBL_SBL_A Contains URL's A record listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: blog.n1bug.com] 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 046f068074e745d5c60ca47deee9b503 Subject: Re: LF: Do I need an attenuator on LF RX?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hello Mike, Thanks for the reply, it actually has 2 (in series) N1BUG band pass filters in front of it! I have always had this "noise hump" around the band, I once thought the filter (one...) had cured it, but next time I looked it was back. MF is lovely and quiet in comparison. i see exactly the same with a Softrock with or without a BPF. http://blog.n1bug.com/2017/02/01/2200-meter-softrock-lite-ii/ Monday, February 12, 2018, 4:26:13 PM, you wrote: > Chris, > It looks like you have a broadcast station where it shouldn't be (at > 132.65kHz) and several other spurious stations in that area, so you > may well have unwanted signals within the 136kHz band, especially at > night (your recording seems to have been done during the middle of > the day). You might improve things by by-passing the pre-amp. It > would do no harm just by experimenting with an attenuator but why > attenuate and amplify at the same time unless the preamp also > provides another function such as matching? It seems the only > front-end selectivity on that receiver is a narrow bandpass so you > would really benefit from some additional wider filtering, eg an LPF > with a cut-off just below the LW BC band. > Mike, G3XDV > ========== -- Best regards, Chris mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com