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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Clemens, I'm not sure I understand your question.On TX, I just adjust the Tesla antenna to 'take up' as many watts as I can, and then look on the various online receivers for the signal.On Rx, I just couple the Tesla antenna to a receiver, and then compare the results with a 'normal' antenna by listening.Not a very scientific method, but it works, and is good enough for me.With very kind regards, David. From: Clemens Paul To: Saturday, 10 February 2018, 17:54 Subject: RE: VLF: 1.6 Hz from Kiruna Hi David, >This is the very reason I am reluctant to give out the Tesla >TX radio method details.. >Tesla's radio is the opposite, and favours frequencies as low >as 1 Hz with very compact antenna dimensions (around 2 metres >high, and 1 metre wide). Maybe you can disclose at least the the 3dB BW of this kind of antenna? 73 Clemens DL4RAJ [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (evad_hine[at]yahoo.co.uk) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 69d86b33142413363dd56bd312139bf4 Subject: Re: VLF: 1.6 Hz from Kiruna? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11219774_496936468.1518286362817" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------=_Part_11219774_496936468.1518286362817 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Clemens, I'm not sure I understand your question.On TX, I just adjust th= e Tesla antenna to 'take up' as many watts as I can, and then look on the v= arious online receivers for the signal.On Rx, I just couple the Tesla anten= na to a receiver, and then compare the results with a 'normal' antenna by l= istening.Not a very scientific method, but it works, and is good enough for= me.With very kind regards, David. From: Clemens Paul To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2018, 17:54 Subject: RE: VLF: 1.6 Hz from Kiruna Hi David, >This is the very reason I am reluctant to give out the Tesla=20 >TX radio method details.. >Tesla's radio is the opposite, and favours frequencies as low=20 >as 1 Hz with very compact antenna dimensions (around 2 metres=20 >high, and 1 metre wide).=C2=A0 Maybe you can disclose at least the the 3dB BW of this kind of antenna? 73 Clemens DL4RAJ=20 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of David Hine >Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 6:31 PM >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: Re: VLF: 1.6 Hz from Kiruna? > > =20 ------=_Part_11219774_496936468.1518286362817 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Clemens, I'm not sure I understand you= r question.
On TX, I just adjust the Tesla antenna to 'take up' as many = watts as I can, and then look on the various online receivers for the signa= l.
On Rx, I just couple the Tesla antenna to a receiver, and then compar= e the results with a 'normal' antenna by listening.
Not a very scientifi= c method, but it works, and is good enough for me.
With very kind regard= s, David.

Fro= m: Clemens Paul <cpaul@gmx.net>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2018, 17= :54
Subject:<= /b> RE: VLF: 1.6 Hz from Kiruna

Hi David,
>This is t= he very reason I am reluctant to give out the Tesla
>= TX radio method details..
>Tesla's radio is the opposi= te, and favours frequencies as low
>as 1 Hz with very= compact antenna dimensions (around 2 metres
>high, a= nd 1 metre wide). 
Maybe you can disclose at least the the 3dB BW of this kind of a= ntenna?
73
Clemens
DL= 4RAJ

>-----Original Message----->From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org
>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of David Hine=
>Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 6:31 PM
>Subject: Re: VLF: 1.6 Hz from Kiruna?

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