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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Stefan Yes ... I use add.exe. Look forward to a signal from you one day. Jay [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (jrusgrove[at]comcast.net) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: ed9dcf4545ec97a65e50af1597e81212 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA 8.27 kHz EbNaut in CT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0154_01D39537.F0C30950" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0154_01D39537.F0C30950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan Yes ... I use add.exe. Look forward to a signal from you one day.=20 Jay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DK7FC=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 4:25 PM Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA 8.27 kHz EbNaut in CT Hi Jay,=20 Do you know how to stack the individual files by using one of the two = available stacking tools? One day i would try to send you a message (CRC 32 !! :-) ) on 8270. = This will require stacking.=20 73, Stefan Am 24.01.2018 22:04, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net:=20 Paul The path from VO1NA to Burlington CT is only 589 kM ... and it's = mostly over water.=20 Have been attempting to decode VO1NA for a couple weeks now (both = 2100 and 0900 transmissions) and only have that one success. If I didn't = have such an easy time with W4DEX's transmission I'd think there was = something wrong with the receiving setup! (Suppose that's still = possible). There has been no shortage of very convincing false decodes. = Think Stefan is right ... a higher CRC is needed. Any chance the lack of VO1NA decodes on this side of the pond is due = to the terminator affecting both the 2100 and 0900 transmissions? Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Paul Nicholson" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:01 PM Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA 8.27 kHz EbNaut in CT >=20 > Jay wrote: >=20 > > First successful decode of VO1NA transmission 1/19-20. > > Single night ... no stacking. >=20 > > 19/20 Eb/N0 +4.2 dB, S/N -36.25 dB/1 Hz, phase -71.8 *Decoded* >=20 > A great result for 1704 km land path. Only a well-sorted = receiver > could produce that. >=20 > It doesn't break any records, but it deserves to. >=20 > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- >=20 > ------=_NextPart_000_0154_01D39537.F0C30950 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Stefan
 
Yes ... I use add.exe. Look forward to = a signal=20 from you one day.
 
Jay
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 DK7FC=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, = 2018 4:25=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA 8.27 kHz = EbNaut in=20 CT

Hi Jay,

Do you know how to stack the individual = files=20 by using one of the two available stacking tools?
One day i would = try to=20 send you a message (CRC 32 !! :-) ) on 8270. This will require = stacking.=20

73, Stefan

Am 24.01.2018 22:04, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net:=20
Paul
 
The path from VO1NA to Burlington = CT is only=20 589 kM ... and it's mostly over water.
 
Have been attempting to decode = VO1NA for a=20 couple weeks now (both 2100 and 0900 transmissions) and only = have that=20 one success. If I didn't have such an easy time with W4DEX's = transmission=20 I'd think there was something wrong with the receiving setup! = (Suppose=20 that's still possible). There has been no shortage of very = convincing=20 false decodes. Think Stefan is right ... a higher CRC is=20 needed.
 
Any chance the lack of VO1NA = decodes on this=20 side of the pond is due to the terminator affecting both the 2100 = and 0900=20 transmissions?
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS =20 WE2XGR/2
 
   
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From: "Paul Nicholson" = <vlf0403@abelian.org>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 = 2:01=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA 8.27 kHz = EbNaut in=20 CT

>
>=20 Jay wrote:
>
> > First successful decode of = VO1NA=20 transmission 1/19-20.
> > Single night  ... no=20 stacking.
>
> > 19/20 Eb/N0 +4.2 dB, S/N -36.25 = dB/1=20 Hz, phase -71.8 *Decoded*
>
> A great result for 1704 = km land=20 path.   Only a well-sorted receiver
> could produce=20 that.
>
> It doesn't break any records, but it deserves = to.
>
> --
> Paul Nicholson
> --
>=20
>
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