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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: You're welcome Roger, There are good conditions tonight. Just give me a little notice if you need an LF signal for your experiments. GL es 73 [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (g3xizchris[at]gmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: b8b011f938af8abc4b241335cabd0691 Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz WSPR RX using the earth-electrode "antenna" in the ground Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113fb11839c254056378c32e" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --001a113fb11839c254056378c32e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" You're welcome Roger, There are good conditions tonight. Just give me a little notice if you need an LF signal for your experiments. GL es 73 Chris G3XIZ On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 9:08 PM, Roger Lapthorn wrote: > Hi Chris G3XIZ, > > Your S/N is about 2-3dB better on the earth-electrode "antenna" than on > the compromise vertical. I think the "loop" in the ground would be end-on > in your direction. Thank you so much for coming on 136kHz WSPR. > > G6AVK has also been active, but *not* copied. He is orthogonal to the > "loop". > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > On 23 January 2018 at 19:33, Roger Lapthorn > wrote: > >> This evening, I am on 136kHz WSPR RX using my earth-electrode "antenna" >> instead. The nearby commercial signal is* stronger *on the ground >> "antenna" than on the vertical. >> >> If you are able to come on 136kHz WSPR this evening it will be >> interesting to compare the difference. Still using the deaf (at 136kHz) >> FT817. >> >> Incidentally, the schematic of the mag-mounted EFP on the car roof used >> many years ago is attached. This was used with the FT817 very successfully. >> >> 73s >> Roger G3XBM >> > > --001a113fb11839c254056378c32e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You're welcome Roger,

Ther= e are good conditions tonight.
Just give me a little notice if yo= u need an LF signal for your experiments.

GL es 73
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Chris G3XIZ

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 9:08 PM, Roger Lapthorn <rogerl= apthorn@gmail.com> wrote:
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Hi Chris G3XIZ,

Your S/N is a= bout 2-3dB better on the earth-electrode "antenna" than on the co= mpromise vertical. I think the "loop" in the ground would be end-= on in your direction. Thank you so much for coming on 136kHz WSPR.

G6AVK has also been active, but not copied. He is = orthogonal to the "loop".

73s
= Roger G3XBM

On 23 January 2018 at 19:33= , Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com> wrote:
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This evening, I am on 1= 36kHz WSPR RX using my earth-electrode "antenna" instead. The nea= rby commercial signal is stronger on the ground "antenna" = than on the vertical.

If you are able to come on 1= 36kHz WSPR this evening it will be interesting to compare the difference. S= till using the deaf (at 136kHz) FT817.

Incidentall= y, the schematic of the mag-mounted EFP on the car roof used many years ago= is attached. This was used with the FT817 very successfully.
73s
Roger G3XBM


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