Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id w0NLECT7030187 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 22:14:15 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ee5nk-0004f3-0Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 21:08:16 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ee5ne-0004es-Gg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 21:08:10 +0000 Received: from mail-ot0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::22e]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ee5nb-0002IX-BQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 21:08:09 +0000 Received: by mail-ot0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id p36so1710066otd.10 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:08:06 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=6llM9TnybX/TeI4EqQz7FqkBmbLnU1ReCcZ0uAi2u5U=; b=RFlsW4er35SQ7i83nCNe5bl4CYsQWgflCjde0c51yjJDLhol2sGgYpZALyS9CpgnPM E4/pVhdpIruxavszxrShl8dT2xIQqWY1koFVwPGknG6AgUVgwfEyxPE2zIhVH5x7hqEC aCCgdJ07hRLN3TFgsh9EGISvO865RhFLrrwCul0NN6K4n8imi6bTcIs9uCrw4BIXRUH6 sh19z3U3sF7cz+I5yAUc7/ZDvGW6evQczMRkQJqf5gRHAPDJKDOIExKcfYrePRsQH9mX G/klbO5UZDKJxer+N5VsMOc8jbVpOBr0WrlaRUIQRtcJVORdy/ZY5p+mGvKUaGbzsmV0 rtWA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=6llM9TnybX/TeI4EqQz7FqkBmbLnU1ReCcZ0uAi2u5U=; b=LJ+HsKb4GKx9mm2FpfScQM6iEY9J7Nv6H1bB6lnai5sqIogiy9kB4BB1nadLh+r3d9 DHtPxL6ZolWoM4LSnMI9QrxvlQGHLKikJuzo1kiQ3dQgkLAGXod3e3jyPT2W9Q7K73o9 j1HNSBNpibzitP0yEV+z7tOM7YMVLL+fjmdXvZpMQCmFVLbpbMX6iL7jqYNjNJfJUnTA YuN9nDKKKGi+01KVcLmHG1BUHP5pGWSWfZnvSdjQhR6SBcyh8ABvlk1YoOMNfwlIbc5o Vf6obtZl8s2adcL3JOvElRzYglCA3aQsv3NtCvqcb9cdqJZDlo1WCrEOCVPHqlqUOvda r0lA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytc9J8ouon2bn7Z4hVWqjX2+ai8ZBF6A6i3AjKZ8LfwqUL/PHTGe I55hXYYyfn2CMajSYQvq1FIxqff+kmjPzW28DxLWyg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x225SgsyslyCbCkjROtuW9U6OkCjpE3fc9xIJnlHbRQTUdT8o1XRCmHAIhfmnjZll6z8Plsi93FGUa1GbWP4HJwU= X-Received: by 10.157.17.7 with SMTP id g7mr8781603ote.248.1516741685306; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:08:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.37.235 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:08:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Roger Lapthorn Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 21:08:04 +0000 Message-ID: To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Chris G3XIZ, Your S/N is about 2-3dB better on the earth-electrode "antenna" than on the compromise vertical. I think the "loop" in the ground would be end-on in your direction. Thank you so much for coming on 136kHz WSPR. 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I think the "loop" in the ground would be end-on in your direction. Thank you so much for coming on 136kHz WSPR. G6AVK has also been active, but *not* copied. He is orthogonal to the "loop". 73s Roger G3XBM On 23 January 2018 at 19:33, Roger Lapthorn wrote: > This evening, I am on 136kHz WSPR RX using my earth-electrode "antenna" > instead. The nearby commercial signal is* stronger *on the ground > "antenna" than on the vertical. > > If you are able to come on 136kHz WSPR this evening it will be interesting > to compare the difference. Still using the deaf (at 136kHz) FT817. > > Incidentally, the schematic of the mag-mounted EFP on the car roof used > many years ago is attached. This was used with the FT817 very successfully. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > --001a113e37965e6a2f056377f107 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Chris G3XIZ,

Your S/N is = about 2-3dB better on the earth-electrode "antenna" than on the c= ompromise vertical. I think the "loop" in the ground would be end= -on in your direction. Thank you so much for coming on 136kHz WSPR.
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G6AVK has also been active, but not copied. He is= orthogonal to the "loop".

73s
Roger G3XBM

On 23 January 2018 at 19:33, Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gm= ail.com> wrote:
This evening, I am on 136kHz WSPR RX using my earth-electrode &q= uot;antenna" instead. The nearby commercial signal is stronger = on the ground "antenna" than on the vertical.

If you are able to come on 136kHz WSPR this evening it will be intere= sting to compare the difference. Still using the deaf (at 136kHz) FT817.

Incidentally, the schematic of the mag-mounted EFP o= n the car roof used many years ago is attached. This was used with the FT81= 7 very successfully.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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