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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > there is a delay of 1 symbol length, i.e. 30 seconds. Strange. Well Bielefeld peaks at Eb/N0 +7.4 dB with a +43 second offset, Todmorden peaks at +42.5 seconds. I don't think any other transmission were affected but I'll try a T-sweep on some of them just as a spot check. 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Well Bielefeld peaks at Eb/N0 +7.4 dB with a +43 second offset, Todmorden peaks at +42.5 seconds. I don't think any other transmission were affected but I'll try a T-sweep on some of them just as a spot check. Final results then, with offset 14/15 T=+42.5 Todmorden (881.2 km) -------------------- 29/30 Eb/N0 +2.8 dB, S/N -26.2 dB/1Hz, phase 46.1 *Decoded* 30/31 Eb/N0 +4.1 dB, S/N -24.9 dB/1Hz, phase 44.2 *Decoded* 31/01 Eb/N0 +1.8 dB, S/N -27.1 dB/1Hz, phase 43.2 *Decoded* 01/02 Eb/N0 +1.5 dB, S/N -27.5 dB/1Hz, phase 57.6 *Decoded* 02/03 Eb/N0 -1.6 dB, S/N -30.6 dB/1Hz, phase 60.6; 03/04 Eb/N0 -1.6 dB, S/N -30.6 dB/1Hz, phase 50.3; 04/05 Eb/N0 0.0 dB, S/N -29.0 dB/1Hz, phase 61.3; 05/06 Eb/N0 +1.4 dB, S/N -27.6 dB/1Hz, phase 58.3 *Decoded* 06/07 Eb/N0 +0.1 dB, S/N -28.8 dB/1Hz, phase 56.2 *Decoded* 07/08 Eb/N0 -2.1 dB, H-field only, phase 64.1; 08/09 Eb/N0 -3.1 dB, S/N -32.1 dB/1Hz, phase 45.0; 09/10 Eb/N0 -0.2 dB, S/N -26.2 dB/1Hz, phase 34.9 *Decoded* 10/11 Eb/N0 +1.5 dB, S/N -27.5 dB/1Hz, phase 39.4 *Decoded* 11/12 Eb/N0 +1.1 dB, S/N -27.9 dB/1Hz, phase 37.8 *Decoded* 12/13 Eb/N0 +1.6 dB, S/N -27.3 dB/1Hz, phase 42.8 *Decoded* 13/14 Eb/N0 +1.6 dB, S/N -27.4 dB/1Hz, phase 43.6 *Decoded* 14/15 Eb/N0 +0.1 dB, S/N -28.8 dB/1Hz, phase 26.7 *Decoded* Average Eb/N0 +0.5 dB, S/N -28.1 dB/1Hz, phase 46.7 std dev 9.6; Bielefeld (303.8 km DL4YHF) --------------------------- 29/30 Eb/N0 +8.6 dB, S/N -20.4 dB/1Hz, phase -53.5 *Decoded* 30/31 Eb/N0 +8.3 dB, S/N -20.6 dB/1Hz, phase -52.1 *Decoded* 31/01 Eb/N0 +8.1 dB, S/N -20.8 dB/1Hz, phase -56.3 *Decoded* 01/02 Eb/N0 +8.4 dB, S/N -20.6 dB/1Hz, phase -47.9 *Decoded* 02/03 Eb/N0 +4.0 dB, S/N -24.9 dB/1Hz, phase -38.1 *Decoded* 03/04 Eb/N0 +5.6 dB, S/N -23.4 dB/1Hz, phase -46.1 *Decoded* 04/05 Eb/N0 +8.8 dB, S/N -20.1 dB/1Hz, phase -47.0 *Decoded* 05/06 Eb/N0 +10.4 dB, S/N -18.5 dB/1Hz, phase -41.1 *Decoded* 06/07 Eb/N0 +11.5 dB, S/N -17.5 dB/1Hz, phase -43.2 *Decoded* 07/08 Eb/N0 +11.0 dB, S/N -18.0 dB/1Hz, phase -37.4 *Decoded* 08/09 Eb/N0 +8.6 dB, S/N -20.4 dB/1Hz, phase -49.1 *Decoded* 09/10 Eb/N0 +8.4 dB, S/N -20.5 dB/1Hz, phase -50.2 *Decoded* 10/11 Eb/N0 +9.0 dB, S/N -20.0 dB/1Hz, phase -51.4 *Decoded* 11/12 Eb/N0 +8.3 dB, S/N -20.6 dB/1Hz, phase -41.4 *Decoded* 12/13 Eb/N0 +8.9 dB, S/N -20.0 dB/1Hz, phase -40.0 *Decoded* 13/14 Eb/N0 +10.0 dB, S/N -19.0 dB/1Hz, phase -50.7 *Decoded* 14/15 Eb/N0 +7.4 dB, S/N -21.5 dB/1Hz, phase -54.2 *Decoded* Average Eb/N0 +8.5 dB, S/N -20.4 dB/1Hz, phase -47.0 std dev 5.7; Warsaw (919.3 km SQ5BPF) ------------------------ 29/30 Eb/N0 -5.4 dB, S/N -34.4 dB/1Hz, phase -20.3; 30/31 Eb/N0 -17.2 dB, S/N -46.2 dB/1Hz; 31/01 Eb/N0 -7.8 dB, S/N -36.8 dB/1Hz, phase -44.2; 01/02 Eb/N0 -6.1 dB, S/N -35.1 dB/1Hz, phase -36.1; 02/03 Eb/N0 -8.2 dB, S/N -37.1 dB/1Hz, phase 2.9; 03/04 Eb/N0 -10.2 dB, S/N -39.2 dB/1Hz, phase -33.1; 04/05 Eb/N0 -8.1 dB, S/N -37.1 dB/1Hz, phase -3.8; 05/06 Eb/N0 -6.4 dB, S/N -35.4 dB/1Hz, phase -44.2; 06/07 Eb/N0 -8.1 dB, S/N -37.1 dB/1Hz, phase -22.9; 07/08 Eb/N0 -7.5 dB, S/N -36.5 dB/1Hz, phase -20.8; 08/09 No data from rx site, uplink off; 09/10 Eb/N0 -9.9 dB, S/N -38.8 dB/1Hz, phase -23.3; 10/11 No data from rx site, uplink off; 11/12 No data from rx site, uplink off; 12/13 Eb/N0 -9.4 dB, S/N -38.3 dB/1Hz, phase -12.1; 13/14 Eb/N0 -10.8 dB, uplink stopped part way; 14/15 Eb/N0 -7.1 dB, S/N -36.1 dB/1Hz, phase -10.1; Average Eb/N0 -8.6 dB, S/N -37.5 dB/1Hz, phase -20.6 std dev 15.1; Cumiana (504.6 km IK1QFK) ------------------------- 29/30 Eb/N0 -5.4 dB, S/N -34.3 dB/1Hz, phase 176.7; 30/31 Eb/N0 -1.3 dB, S/N -30.3 dB/1Hz, phase -176.2; 31/01 Eb/N0 -4.9 dB, S/N -33.9 dB/1Hz, phase 177.4; 01/02 No data from rx site, ADSL fault; 02/03 No data from rx site, ADSL fault; 03/04 No data from rx site, ADSL fault; 04/05 Eb/N0 -1.6 dB, S/N -30.6 dB/1Hz, phase 174.5; 05/06 Eb/N0 -1.4 dB, S/N -30.4 dB/1Hz, phase 171.1; 06/07 Eb/N0 -1.1 dB, S/N -30.0 dB/1Hz, phase -172.8; 07/08 Eb/N0 -2.8 dB, S/N -31.8 dB/1Hz, phase -169.2; 08/09 Eb/N0 -5.8 dB, S/N -34.8 dB/1Hz, phase -179.3; 09/10 Eb/N0 -1.3 dB, S/N -30.2 dB/1Hz, phase 175.7; 10/11 Eb/N0 -0.3 dB, S/N -29.2 dB/1Hz, phase 173.6 *Decoded* 11/12 Eb/N0 -0.1 dB, S/N -29.1 dB/1Hz, phase 174.7 *Decoded* 12/13 Eb/N0 +1.1 dB, S/N -27.9 dB/1Hz, phase 175.1 *Decoded* 13/14 Eb/N0 -0.1 dB, S/N -29.1 dB/1Hz, phase 175.1 *Decoded* 14/15 Eb/N0 -3.1 dB, S/N -32.1 dB/1Hz, phase 171.3; Average Eb/N0 -2.0 dB, S/N -31.0 dB/1Hz, phase 177.7 std dev 5.7 -- Paul Nicholson --