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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Jacek on my own checks it seems to be posters out side the UK who occasionally have trouble ( some ISPs are permanently locked out it seems). I also noticed on the turn of the year there are a lot of sites whose certificates have expired. The checking is set fairly tight I believe, and sometimes messages are dumped. There is an interesting bug where if you send an attachment but leave the subject field empty the parser throws a wobbly and the attachment and message get corrupted. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 49f0f587e44d6711c57b8a4e950ba850 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 136kHz WSPR experiment Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Jacek on my own checks it seems to be posters out side the UK who occasionally have trouble ( some ISPs are permanently locked out it seems). I also noticed on the turn of the year there are a lot of sites whose certificates have expired. The checking is set fairly tight I believe, and sometimes messages are dumped. There is an interesting bug where if you send an attachment but leave the subject field empty the parser throws a wobbly and the attachment and message get corrupted. Even more interesting is that it is still alive because 'there was no archive that could be harvested' .... that is obviously no longer the case. It is generally surprisingly stable. Even more interesting I cant get a sensible response from Yahoo groups at the moment :-)) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacek Lipkowski" To: Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 11:02 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: 136kHz WSPR experiment > On Thu, 25 Jan 2018, Michael Sapp wrote: > >> Roger: I tried to post a reply to the group prior but it did apparently >> did not make it past the >> admin monitor or it exceeded message size limit. > > I've found that the thorcom.com servers (which are the MX for > blacksheep.org) are not very forgiving of incorrect DNS settings, and also > STARTTLS negotiation. Even many "professional" email providers don't get > this right the first time. > > Some people don't have trouble posting, but the list messages are delayed. > If you want to check if your message went through, you can check the list > archives on the klubnl.pl site (this is not realtime, updated every hour): > > https://klubnl.pl/rsgb_lf_group-archives/html/rsgb_lf_group/ > > VY 73 > > Jacek / SQ5BPF > > > > > >