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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Paul The path from VO1NA to Burlington CT is only 589 kM ... and it's mostly over water. Have been attempting to decode VO1NA for a couple weeks now (both 2100 and 0900 transmissions) and only have that one success. If I didn't have such an easy time with W4DEX's transmission I'd think there was something wrong with the receiving setup! (Suppose that's still possible). There has been no shortage of very convincing false decodes. Think Stefan is right ... a higher CRC is needed. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (jrusgrove[at]comcast.net) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: c95b9a52470b89d54f2ef38e923e05cb Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA 8.27 kHz EbNaut in CT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0121_01D3952C.FE543EF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.7 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0121_01D3952C.FE543EF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paul The path from VO1NA to Burlington CT is only 589 kM ... and it's mostly = over water.=20 Have been attempting to decode VO1NA for a couple weeks now (both 2100 = and 0900 transmissions) and only have that one success. If I didn't have = such an easy time with W4DEX's transmission I'd think there was = something wrong with the receiving setup! (Suppose that's still = possible). There has been no shortage of very convincing false decodes. = Think Stefan is right ... a higher CRC is needed. Any chance the lack of VO1NA decodes on this side of the pond is due to = the terminator affecting both the 2100 and 0900 transmissions? Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Paul Nicholson" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:01 PM Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA 8.27 kHz EbNaut in CT >=20 > Jay wrote: >=20 > > First successful decode of VO1NA transmission 1/19-20. > > Single night ... no stacking. >=20 > > 19/20 Eb/N0 +4.2 dB, S/N -36.25 dB/1 Hz, phase -71.8 *Decoded* >=20 > A great result for 1704 km land path. Only a well-sorted receiver > could produce that. >=20 > It doesn't break any records, but it deserves to. >=20 > -- > Paul Nicholson > -- >=20 > ------=_NextPart_000_0121_01D3952C.FE543EF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Paul
 
The path from VO1NA to Burlington CT is = only 589 kM=20 ... and it's mostly over water.
 
Have been attempting to decode VO1NA = for a couple=20 weeks now (both 2100 and 0900 transmissions) and only have that one = success. If I didn't have such an easy time with W4DEX's transmission = I'd think=20 there was something wrong with the receiving setup! (Suppose = that's still=20 possible). There has been no shortage of very convincing false decodes. = Think=20 Stefan is right ... a higher CRC is needed.
 
Any chance the lack of VO1NA decodes on = this side=20 of the pond is due to the terminator affecting both the 2100 and 0900=20 transmissions?
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  = WE2XGR/2
 
   
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Nicholson" <vlf0403@abelian.org>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:01=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA 8.27 kHz EbNaut = in=20 CT

>
> Jay wrote:
>
> > First = successful=20 decode of VO1NA transmission 1/19-20.
> > Single = night  ...=20 no stacking.
>
> > 19/20 Eb/N0 +4.2 dB, S/N -36.25 = dB/1 Hz,=20 phase -71.8 *Decoded*
>
> A great result for 1704 km land=20 path.   Only a well-sorted receiver
> could produce=20 that.
>
> It doesn't break any records, but it deserves = to.
>=20
> --
> Paul Nicholson
> --
>=20
>
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