Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id w0LBKYor020938 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2018 12:20:37 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1edDTo-0005tv-0o for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Jan 2018 11:08:04 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1edDTf-0005tm-DO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Jan 2018 11:07:55 +0000 Received: from omr-m015e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.15]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1edDTb-0000H7-DP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Jan 2018 11:07:54 +0000 Received: from mtaomg-aak01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aak01.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.227]) by omr-m015e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8E8433800086 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2018 06:07:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-ace01f.mail.aol.com (core-ace01.mail.aol.com [172.27.23.1]) by mtaomg-aak01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3DD2238000081 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2018 06:07:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from 188.194.222.230 by webjas-vac080.srv.aolmail.net (10.96.19.83) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 21 Jan 2018 06:07:44 -0500 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2018 06:07:45 -0500 From: Markus Vester To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-Id: <1611867176a-1724-a4878@webjas-vac080.srv.aolmail.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: JAS STD X-Originating-IP: [188.194.222.230] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1516532865; bh=zMEnAZLhf+z1WwqtH7lrgrGx8qJScY1wfPkglSfUCvY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hhps1d49pPxJXpaYExFhqzHJHJb7rSKYLP6xk3uuAJsJj+BnOj4AFqakblrTiw84l EkIw7a28tY7Ra4tj+gA8olDKrBVKPu1LpC3AKYf4BI3YtF0HbSn6r78WC2p4EVDUwD qng1qaXT1Tie/Ss9JJiFxQFZlhfWoRFe1trr3ECg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b02e35a6474812040 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Riccardo, no need to be sorry at all ;-) Sometimes our grabbers are starving, and any unidentified trace makes us extremely curious. There are currently only a few (six ?) active transmit stations. BTW what are all the other Dreamers doing now, like Chris, Roger, Lubos, Henny, Victor, Ossi, Gerhard, Walter, Roland, Paul C? [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP URI: URI host has a public dotted-decimal IPv4 address 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 39b95da199347a6a932fd03c8ef722b2 Subject: Re: VLF: Carrier on 8270.0025 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_871067_355855538.1516532864874" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------=_Part_871067_355855538.1516532864874 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Riccardo, no need to be sorry at all ;-) Sometimes our grabbers are starving, and any= unidentified trace makes us extremely curious. There are currently only a = few (six ?) active transmit stations. BTW what are all the other Dreamers d= oing now, like Chris, Roger, Lubos, Henny, Victor, Ossi, Gerhard, Walter, R= oland, Paul C? =20 Regarding SpecLab transmit: The phase stabilisation scheme will only work w= ith 1pps and "GPS phase lock" ticked. With a 10 kHz or other pilot tone, th= e frequency can still be locked as long as there are no interruptions. But = as soon as a glitch or a restart happens, the software has no way of reaqui= ring precise time and absolute phase because it doesn't know how many 10 kH= z cycles have been lost. This usually leaves you with a permanent phase jum= p.=20 One explanation for an undesired continuous phase rotation could be that yo= u happen to own one of those soundcards which have slightly different input= and output samplerates, leading to periodic buffer overflows or underruns.= With 1pps sync, you can more or less fix it by calibrating both rates sepa= rately and ticking the output resample box in Audio Settings. All the best, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Riccardo Zoli An: LF Group Verschickt: So, 21. Jan 2018 1:32 Betreff: Re: VLF: Carrier on 8270.0025 Hi Markus, Uwe, VLF. =20 Yes, it was me (no escape with Paul's RDF :-) )...I'm very sorry for this m= isunderstanding. Markus, I'm testing (but now in local) your SL's TX configuration (#18.ini)= . Now, I have got some problems with digimode modulator to generate a correct= BPSK signal using the file created by EbNaut sender. Around 8270 Hz, the carrier phase is in continuous rotation but a few Hz aw= ay is locked and OK. For your info, I'm using the 10kHz GPSDO signal (ch. R= ) instead 1PPS pulse. Please, have you any suggestions? Thanks so much. All the best 73 de Riccardo IW4DXW Il 21/Gen/2018 00:53, "Markus Vester" ha scritto: Thanks Uwe for info. I'm sorry to read about Mother Nature's mischief, hope= that you can repair it soon. But then, whodunit? The carrier was clearly visible approximately from Jan = 18, 21:30 to Jan 19, 16:15 UT, southeast rather than east of Todmorden. Ric= cardo?=20 Or perhaps a magical long delayed echo from one of my earlier transmissions= on that QRG? 73, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: dj8wx An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Sa, 20. Jan 2018 16:21 Betreff: AW: VLF: Carrier on 8270.0025 sri Markus, its not me. Im QRT because the snow took one of my masts down Uwe/dj8wx =20 =20 =20 -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: VLF: Carrier on 8270.0025 Datum: 2018-01-19T19:03:56+0100 Von: "Markus Vester" An: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" =20 =20 =20 There's a good carrier on 8270.0025 Hz but not from me - Uwe? It's well vis= ible in Todmorden (east) and Amberg (north/south), and perhaps marginally i= n Nuremberg. Good luck! 73 Markus (DF6NM)=20 -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: dj8wx An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: So, 14. Jan 2018 22:53 Betreff: AW: VLF: Mystery signal 8270 Hz hi Paul. its me testing the new ant coils. Im controling the radiation sinc= e hours, but no "ragged" parts found. Uwe/dj8wx -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: VLF: Mystery signal 8270 Hz Datum: 2018-01-14T22:32:17+0100 Von: "Paul Nicholson" An: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Does anyone claim ownership of this slightly ragged signal today on 8270? http://78.46.38.217/fbins3.html#p=3D1515960000&b=3D050&s=3Dfd&m=3Dcardioid&= w=3Dr&h=3D42&z1=3D0.34&z2=3D0.64&c=3D1&mb=3D592,123,748,233,1 From north-east of here. -- Paul Nicholson -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Gesendet mit Telekom Mail - kostenlos= und sicher f=C3=BCr alle! =EF=BB=BF =20 Gesendet mit Telekom Mail - kostenlos und sicher f=C3=BCr alle! ------=_Part_871067_355855538.1516532864874 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Riccardo,

no need to be sorry at = all ;-) Sometimes our grabbers are starving, and any unidentified= trace makes us extremely curious. There are currently only a few=  (six ?) active transmit stations. BTW what are all the othe= r Dreamers doing now, like Chris, Roger, Lubos, Henny, Victor, Ossi, G= erhard, Walter, Roland, Paul C?  

Regarding SpecLab transmit: The phase stabilisation scheme will = ;only work with 1pps and "GPS phase lock" ticked. With a 10 kHz o= r other pilot tone, the frequency can still be locked as long as there are = no interruptions. But as soon as a glitch or a restart happens, the softwar= e has no way of reaquiring precise time and absolute phase because it = doesn't know how many 10 kHz cycles have been lost. This usually leave= s you with a permanent phase jump.

One explanation for an= undesired continuous phase rotation could be that you happen to own o= ne of those soundcards which have slightly different input and output = samplerates, leading to periodic buffer overflows or underruns. With&n= bsp;1pps sync, you can more or less fix it by calibrating both rates separa= tely and ticking the output resample box in Audio Settings.

All the = best,
Markus (DF6NM)

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteil= ung-----
Von: Riccardo Zoli <riccardozoli80@gmail.com&g= t;
An: LF Group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: So, 21. Jan 2018 1:32
Betreff: Re: VL= F: Carrier on 8270.0025

=

Hi Markus, Uwe, VLF.   


Yes, it was me (no escape with Paul's= RDF :-) )...I'm very sorry for this misunderstanding.
Markus, I'm testing (but now in local) your SL's TX configu= ration (#18.ini).
Now, I have got some = problems with digimode modulator to generate a correct BPSK signal using th= e file created by EbNaut sender.
Around= 8270 Hz, the carrier phase is in continuous rotation but a few Hz away is = locked and OK. For your info, I'm using the 10kHz GPSDO signal (ch. R) inst= ead 1PPS pulse.
Please, have you any su= ggestions?
Thanks so much.

All the best

=
73 de Riccardo IW4DXW




Il 21/Gen/2018 00:53, "Markus Vester" <mark= usvester@aol.com> ha scritto:
Thanks Uwe for info. I'm sorry to read about Mother Nat= ure's mischief, hope that you can repair it soon.

But then, whodunit? The carrier was clearly visible approxim= ately from Jan 18, 21:30 to Jan 19, 16:15 UT, southeast rather th= an east of Todmorden. Riccardo?

Or perhaps a magical long delayed echo from one of my earlier transmi= ssions on that QRG?

73, Markus (DF6NM)

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: dj8wx <= dj8wx@t-online.de>
An: rsgb_lf_= group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org&= gt;
Verschickt: Sa, 20. Jan 2018 16:21
Betreff: AW: VLF: Carrier on 8270.0025

<= /div>

sri Markus, its not me. Im QRT because the snow took one o= f my masts down

Uwe/dj8wx

 

 

 

-----Original-Nachricht-----

Betreff: VLF: Carrier on 8270.0025

Datum: 2018-01-19T19:03:56+0100

Von: "Markus Vester" <markusvester@aol.com>

An: "rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org" <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>=

 

 

 

There's a good carrier on 8270.0025 Hz but no= t from me - Uwe? It's well visible in Todmorden (east) and Amberg (nor= th/south), and perhaps marginally in Nuremberg.

Good luck!

73 Markus (DF6NM) 

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mi= tteilung-----
Von: dj8wx <dj8wx@t-= online.de>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsg= b_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: So, 14. Jan 2= 018 22:53
Betreff: AW: VLF: Mystery signal 8270 Hz

hi Paul. its me testing the new ant coils. Im controling the radiation sinc= e hours, but no "ragged" parts found.
Uwe/dj8wx



-----Original-Nachr= icht-----
Betreff: VLF: Mystery signal 8270 Hz
Datum: 2018-01-14T22:32:17+0100
Von: "Paul Nicholson" &= lt;vlf0403@abelian.org>
An: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" <rsgb_lf_gro= up@blacksheep.org>


Does anyone claim ownership of this slightly ragged signal
today on 8270?


http://78.46.38.217/fbins3.html#p=3D1515960000&= amp;b=3D050&s=3Dfd&m=3Dcardioid&w=3Dr&h= =3D42&z1=3D0.34&z2=3D0.64&c=3D1&mb=3D592,= 123,748,233,1

From = north-east of here.

--
Pau= l Nicholson
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