Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id w0DATbal008969 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 11:29:38 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1eaIyZ-0007nW-OS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 10:23:47 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1eaIyZ-0007nN-27 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 10:23:47 +0000 Received: from omr-a019e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.67]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eaIyV-00054E-Fv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 10:23:45 +0000 Received: from mtaomg-aaj02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aaj02.mx.aol.com [172.27.3.208]) by omr-a019e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 88B4238000B8 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 05:23:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-acb06g.mail.aol.com (core-acb06.mail.aol.com [172.27.24.6]) by mtaomg-aaj02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3A91938000082 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2018 05:23:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from 188.194.222.230 by webjas-vab228.srv.aolmail.net (10.96.18.231) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 13 Jan 2018 05:23:40 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 05:23:41 -0500 From: Markus Vester To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-Id: <160ef0bdd86-1725-72a2a@webjas-vab228.srv.aolmail.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: JAS STD X-Originating-IP: [188.194.222.230] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1515839021; bh=15YwF2vtEJoylYuxh3Ru5P/Dj3zMdqHZaqX+bN2UtPk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=7udo8yaiQxTLdRfV3ESNoUBMqERr+tZ2sCsoeLToBlE8j6o+mTXXo0WmNsFzbkLgZ 5c/GPnwOgnH4eJSzxk+RHZQc+OYdzY7vIxg4h/NhJApoFQQzUa+0/fXE0HWmU7JNlI aj6GM+RJDGDlIS2+NjZ++gdIqtP6RWOmxk6Sc9cw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b03d05a59de2d562d X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan, Joe, no luck here either... I hereby disclose my false decode, wonder if you happened to get the same one? Guess we would need stronger CRCs for this, more like 16 instead of 8 bits. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: b0c81be0f3328ec24fe2fd5b2fd44f86 Subject: Re: LF: VLF NA Ebnaut Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_605206_1594996509.1515839020422" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------=_Part_605206_1594996509.1515839020422 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan, Joe, no luck here either... I hereby disclose my false decode, wonder if you ha= ppened to get the same one? =20 Guess we would need stronger CRCs for this, more like 16 instead of 8 bits. Thanks Joe for the challenge! Best 73, Markus -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: jcraig An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Fr, 12. Jan 2018 0:01 Betreff: Re: LF: VLF NA Ebnaut Regrets, Markus. It was not a 9. The wx and power company have been adversely affecting the aerial current. Perhaps much of yesterday morning's transmision was lost because the mains were off. Thanks to you and Paul for the reports. The 0900 and 2100 EbNaut will continue subject to the whims of the power co and Mother Nature. 73 Joe On Fri, 12 Jan 2018, Markus Vester wrote: > Hi Joe, > > the DL0AO cardioid delivers a "9" (rank 4, 1.5 dB) from Jan 10 alone. It = grows stronger with 10+11 stacked (rank 1, 2.1 dB) and even more so with 10= +11+12 stacked (rank 0, 2.6 dB). However Jan 11 alone and Jan 12 alone prod= uced different but weaker results. > > Please confirm "9". > > 73, Markus > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: jcraig An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Fr, 12. Jan 2018 0:01 Betreff: Re: LF: VLF NA Ebnaut Hi Stefan, Sorry, we have to keep trying. The decode was not correct,=20 unfortunately. It seems we lost the mains again some time again today.=20 SL was restarted 2040 ut tonight and the aerial is radiating VLF again. 73 Joe On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, DK7FC wrote: > Hello Joe, > > I got decodes from your daytime message after 1 day already (when using t= he=20 > optimum list length). It was not so clear, two possible characters were= =20 > thrown out but one of them was stronger. Now i waited for the second day.= =20 > Looking for the second day (11th) on its own, the strongest character fro= m=20 > the day before (10th) was conformed. After a weighted stack, the characte= r=20 > became confirmed even more, although the rank is still quite high. > I would like to risk a statement and say, i got the message. I sent you t= he=20 > character/message in a private mail now. Do you confirm it is correct? :-= ) > It is a bit risky with CRC8. Good to make that experience on the RX side = now!=20 > :-) > I would tell details in a next mail then... > > 73, Stefan > > Am 10.01.2018 15:22, schrieb jcraig@mun.ca: >> Hi Stefan, >>=20 >> Glad to hear that your tree is charged. I've added a morning transmissio= n: >>=20 >> Daily, 0900 and 2100 utc, 16K21A, CRC-8, one character, 544 symbols, >> 1 minute each, 8270.0075 Hz, 0.25A, 30 watts to a 100m aerial at 15m >> mean height. >>=20 >> Spectrum Lab is doing very good work with your/Markus' ini file >> and I can sleep/work better without having to worry about my coil >> igniting. >>=20 >> 73 & GL >> Joe VO1NA >>=20 >> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018, DK7FC wrote: >>=20 >>> Hello Joe, >>>=20 >>> What are the details/parameters of that transmission? >>> I will give it a try now! The antenna was switched back to EW before 9= =20 >>> UTC. I'm late but i will get you! >>>=20 >>> 73, Stefan >>>=20 >>> Am 09.01.2018 22:13, schrieb jcraig@mun.ca: >>>> It's good to get these reports. Many thanks. >>>> The daytime sig is visible on your spectrogram though it dips >>>> about 1600 ut. Another transmission has been added at 0900 >>>> for further entertainment. >>>>=20 >>>> 73 >>>> Joe >>>>=20 >>>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018, Paul Nicholson wrote: >>>> ------=_Part_605206_1594996509.1515839020422 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Stefan, Joe,

no luck here either.= ..  I hereby disclose my false decode, wonder if you happened to get t= he same one?
 
Guess we would need stronger CRCs for this, = more like 16 instead of 8 bits.

Thanks Joe for the challenge!
Best 73,
Markus

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: jcraig <jcraig@mun.ca>
An: rsgb_lf= _group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Fr,= 12. Jan 2018 0:01
Betreff: Re: LF: VLF NA Ebnaut

Regrets, Markus. It was not a 9.
The wx and power company have been adversely affecting the ae= rial current.
Perhaps much of yesterday morning's transmisio= n was lost because the mains
were off.

Thanks to you and Paul for the reports. The 0900 and 2100 EbNaut<= br abp=3D"450">will continue subject to the whims of the power co and Mothe= r Nature.

73
Joe

On Fri, 12 Jan 2018, Markus Vester wrote:

> Hi Joe,
>
> the D= L0AO cardioid delivers a "9" (rank 4, 1.5 dB) from Jan 10 alone. It grows s= tronger with 10+11 stacked (rank 1, 2.1 dB) and even more so with 10+11+12 = stacked (rank 0, 2.6 dB). However Jan 11 alone and Jan 12 alone produced di= fferent but weaker results.
>
> Please = confirm "9".
>
> 73, Markus
>


-----Urspr=C3=BC= ngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: jcraig <jcraig@mun.ca><= br abp=3D"2744">An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Fr, 12. Jan 2018 0:01
Betreff: Re: = LF: VLF NA Ebnaut
Hi Stefan,

Sorry, we have to keep trying. The decode was not correct,
unfortunately.

It seems we los= t the mains again some time again today.
SL was restarted = 2040 ut tonight and the aerial is radiating VLF again.

73
Joe


On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, DK7FC wrote:

> Hello Joe,
>
> I got decodes = from your daytime message after 1 day already (when using the
> optimum list length). It was not so clear, two possible characters= were
> thrown out but one of them was stronger. Now i = waited for the second day.
> Looking for the second day= (11th) on its own, the strongest character from
> the = day before (10th) was conformed. After a weighted stack, the character
> became confirmed even more, although the rank is still qu= ite high.
> I would like to risk a statement and say, i = got the message. I sent you the
> character/message in = a private mail now. Do you confirm it is correct? :-)
> = It is a bit risky with CRC8. Good to make that experience on the RX side no= w!
> :-)
> I would tell details in a= next mail then...
>
> 73, Stefan
>
> Am 10.01.2018 15:22, schrieb jcraig@mun.ca:
&= gt;> Hi Stefan,
>>
>> Glad = to hear that your tree is charged. I've added a morning transmission:
>>
>> Daily, 0900 and 2100 utc, 16K= 21A, CRC-8, one character, 544 symbols,
>> 1 minute e= ach, 8270.0075 Hz, 0.25A, 30 watts to a 100m aerial at 15m
= >> mean height.
>>
>> Sp= ectrum Lab is doing very good work with your/Markus' ini file
>> and I can sleep/work better without having to worry about my c= oil
>> igniting.
>>
>> 73 & GL
>> Joe VO1NA
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018, DK7FC wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Joe,
>>>
>>> What are the details/paramet= ers of that transmission?
>>> I will give it a try= now! The antenna was switched back to EW before 9
>>= ;> UTC. I'm late but i will get you!
>>>
>>> 73, Stefan
>>>
>>> Am 09.01.2018 22:13, schrieb jcraig@mun.ca:
>>>> It's= good to get these reports. Many thanks.
>>>>= The daytime sig is visible on your spectrogram though it dips
>>>> about 1600 ut. Another transmission has been added at= 0900
>>>> for further entertainment.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Joe
>>>>
&g= t;>>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018, Paul Nicholson wrote:
&g= t;>>>


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