Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id w07Cb9ki017892 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2018 13:37:12 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1eYA8z-0000nE-MP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:33:41 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1eYA8z-0000mx-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:33:41 +0000 Received: from omr-a018e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eYA8u-00065L-Nc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Jan 2018 12:33:39 +0000 Received: from mtaomg-aao01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aao01.mx.aol.com [172.27.21.15]) by omr-a018e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3E1CF38000CA for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2018 07:33:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-acx11a.mail.aol.com (core-acx11.mail.aol.com [172.27.155.136]) by mtaomg-aao01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0785838000082 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2018 07:33:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from 188.194.222.230 by webjas-vac070.srv.aolmail.net (10.96.19.73) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 07 Jan 2018 07:33:33 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 07:33:33 -0500 From: Markus Vester To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-Id: <160d09c9e0e-170d-8e5f0@webjas-vac070.srv.aolmail.net> In-Reply-To: <160c69df0a2-1723-17fd1@webjas-vae164.srv.aolmail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: JAS STD X-Originating-IP: [188.194.222.230] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1515328414; bh=ERZPoEL37KaxFkwuhHttFkLA5EqOOp5f/fbI6x94sCY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0wceWnibzwhpBULBXBk8181yyIocQYvyyoHMyyjXTMa1r0PDe2vC0yN91sKD+vLIN N7iZzX9IuDo1IBOJVaJiiMphDx/HEwTfsAVe3GRQ3rB+m0eHerj8YaO0MxY6wqRNuN Ycwf798Xp05D+Zym5jiTm+yZZbflfAkGHtVPdIL0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b150f5a52139e5c21 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Wow, after a couple of good nights Warsaw is rapidly catching up! Our wav files (6 single, 2 stacked) are here: http://df6nm.bplaced.net/dl0ao/files/w4dex-dl0ao_wavs_171227-180103.zip Path W4DEX-DL0AO: http://df6nm.bplaced.net/dl0ao/files/w4dex-dl0ao_path.jpg [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: e51657317b06d9cbe905ec682fad6602 Subject: Re: VLF: TA decodes from W4DEX and VO1NA in Amberg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_756782_1979820505.1515328413197" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------=_Part_756782_1979820505.1515328413197 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow, after a couple of good nights Warsaw is rapidly catching up! Our wav files (6 single, 2 stacked) are here: http://df6nm.bplaced.net/dl0ao/files/w4dex-dl0ao_wavs_171227-180103.zip Path W4DEX-DL0AO: http://df6nm.bplaced.net/dl0ao/files/w4dex-dl0ao_path.jpg All the best, Markus ______________________________________ Paul wrote: ... Warsaw (7681.3 km) ------------------ 27/28 Eb/N0 -7.4 dB, S/N -39.6 dB/1Hz, phase 143.3; 28/29 Eb/N0 -11.5 dB, S/N -43.7 dB/1Hz, phase 85.6; 29/30 Eb/N0 -6.8 dB, S/N -40.0 dB/1Hz, phase -46.2; 30/31 Eb/N0 -16.5 dB, S/N -48.6 dB/1Hz; 31/01 Eb/N0 -17.2 dB, S/N -49.3 dB/1Hz; 01/02 No transmission 02/03 Eb/N0 -5.8 dB, S/N -37.9 dB/1Hz, phase -13.9; 03/04 No transmission 04/05 No transmission 05/06 Eb/N0 -2.6 dB, S/N -34.7 dB/1Hz, phase -35.4; 06/07 Eb/N0 -2.9 dB, S/N -35.0 dB/1Hz, phase -1.1; All stacked after tx phase correction: Eb/N0 +0.3 dB; Almost decoding but for a false decode at about +0.5 dB; ... -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Markus Vester An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Fr, 5. Jan 2018 14:58 Betreff: Re: VLF: TA decodes from W4DEX and VO1NA in Amberg >> Enjoy the record while it lasts, they don't seem to stand for long befor= e beaten. Thanks Paul! Yes I'm aware that VLF records are like white lilies... Anyway= I won't be envious, it's good to see the rapid progress in our playing fie= ld.=20 > You're using earth dipoles at Amberg for orthogonal H? Yes. The DL0AO crew around Tom DK1IS and Bernd DF9RB have laid out two 150 = m wires in the forest, pointing 265 and 355 degrees. Each is brought to the= soundcards through CAT5 twinlead, using transformers to separate grounds a= t both ends of the cable. Unlike the active E-field probe, these are purely= passive without preamplification. 1pps is superimposed on one of the RF in= puts through another transformer. The site is fairly quiet as there are sti= ll no electric trains in that area. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) =20 -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Paul Nicholson An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Fr, 5. Jan 2018 14:34 Betreff: Re: VLF: TA decodes from W4DEX and VO1NA in Amberg > According to Google Maps, the distance between > W4DEX (35.256133N 80.380048W) and > DL0AO (49.430965N 11.79635E) is 7257.9 km. I have DL0A0 listed as 49.444444,11.848333 but that may be Amberg, not the antenna. > it looks like Dex and us are currently holding the > world record. Indeed yes. Enjoy the record while it lasts, they don't seem to stand for long before beaten. You're using earth dipoles at Amberg for orthogonal H? -- Paul Nicholson -- ------=_Part_756782_1979820505.1515328413197 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wow, after a couple of good nights Warsaw i= s rapidly catching up!

Our wav files (6 single, 2 stacked) are here:=
http://df6nm.bplaced.net/dl0ao/files/w4dex-dl0ao_wavs_171227-180103.zip=

Path W4DEX-DL0AO:
http://df6nm.bplaced.net/dl0ao/files/w4dex-dl0= ao_path.jpg

All the best,
Markus

_________________________= _____________

Paul wrote:

...
Warsaw (7681.3 km)
------------------

27/28 Eb/N0 -7.4 dB, S/N -39= .6 dB/1Hz, phase 143.3;
28/29 Eb/N0 -11.5 dB, S/N -43.7 d= B/1Hz, phase 85.6;
29/30 Eb/N0 -6.8 dB, S/N -40.0 dB/1H= z, phase -46.2;
30/31 Eb/N0 -16.5 dB, S/N -48.6 dB/1Hz; 31/01 Eb/N0 -17.2 dB, S/N -49.3 dB/1Hz;
= 01/02 No transmission
02/03 Eb/N0 -5.8 dB, S/N -37.9 dB/= 1Hz, phase -13.9;
03/04 No transmission
= 04/05 No transmission
05/06 Eb/N0 -2.6 dB, S/N -34.7 dB= /1Hz, phase -35.4;
06/07 Eb/N0 -2.9 dB, S/N -35.0 dB/1Hz= , phase -1.1;

All stacked after tx phas= e correction: Eb/N0 +0.3 dB;
Almost decoding but for a fa= lse decode at about +0.5 dB;
...

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Markus= Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group <= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Fr, 5. Jan 201= 8 14:58
Betreff: Re: VLF: TA decodes from W4DEX and VO1NA i= n Amberg

>> Enjoy the record while it lasts, they don't see= m to stand for long before beaten.

Thanks = Paul! Yes I'm aware that VLF records are like white lilies... Anyway I won'= t be envious, it's good to see the rapid progress in our playing = field. 

> You're using earth dipol= es at Amberg for orthogonal H?

Yes. The DL= 0AO crew around Tom DK1IS and Bernd DF9RB have laid out two 150 m wires in = the forest, pointing 265 and 355 degrees. Each is brought to the sound= cards through CAT5 twinlead, using transformers to separate grounds at= both ends of the cable. Unlike the active E-field probe, these are purely = passive without preamplification. 1pps is superimposed on one of the RF inp= uts through another transformer. The site is fairly quiet as there are= still no electric trains in that area.

Be= st 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

&nbs= p;


-----Urspr=C3=BCnglich= e Mitteilung-----
Von: Paul Nicholson <vlf0403@abelian.org>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschick= t: Fr, 5. Jan 2018 14:34
Betreff: Re: VLF: TA decodes from = W4DEX and VO1NA in Amberg

> Accor= ding to Google Maps, the distance between
> W4DEX (35.2= 56133N 80.380048W) and
> DL0AO (49.430965N 11.79635E) i= s 7257.9 km.

I have DL0A0 listed as 49.444= 444,11.848333 but that
may be Amberg, not the antenna.

> it looks like Dex and us are currently h= olding the
> world record.

Indeed yes. Enjoy the record while it lasts, they
don'= t seem to stand for long before beaten.

Yo= u're using earth dipoles at Amberg for orthogonal H?

--
Paul Nicholson
--

------=_Part_756782_1979820505.1515328413197--