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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Marco, I don't detect any heat in the LPF but at this low power level it could be difficult to detect it. I already have plans to build the big T type LPF. I have the T-225A-2 cores and metal to make a compartmented box. Capacitors are on the way, could arrive around 29 December. I still need to order the wire and some kind of material for mounting the big inductors. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-Scan-Signature: 290c8768709872f914a4ca71ad6bfe49 Subject: Re: R: Re: LF: TXing 2200m WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Marco, I don't detect any heat in the LPF but at this low power level it could be difficult to detect it. I already have plans to build the big T type LPF. I have the T-225A-2 cores and metal to make a compartmented box. Capacitors are on the way, could arrive around 29 December. I still need to order the wire and some kind of material for mounting the big inductors. I'm making that LPF because eventually I will also build the big amplifier. I'm not sure when that will happen, probably a bit late for this LF season. The most curious thing is what seems to be some measurement error or impedance transformation but the cause remains elusive. I hope to find the reason so I can be more confident about measurements when I go go high power. 73, Paul N1BUG On 12/25/2017 04:35 AM, marcocadeddu@tin.it wrote: > Hello everybody, > > it's ever interesting to read that somebody else has some troubles as > experienced from myself ;-) > Me too am grateful to Andy for the support I received > while struggling with odd experiences.. > Let me join the discussion and share a possible solution: I see that > LPF is a PI version, similar to what I used in the past. It was nice in > RL, armonic suppression and losses when tested with low power > instruments, than I was increasing the wire diameter of coils because > it was a... warming thing! The current was indeed very high in the FETs > (2+2 FETs in push pull) and the RIP area was growing... > After I tried the T LPF (see attachment) no more problems, no more > warming boxes.. > You could re-arrange your LPF components for a quick trial and save > some caps ;-) > In my version I had to make some change because the cores were not > available and used T200-A2 cores calculating the turns to get 59 and > 109 uH coils. > > Maybe it's worth to try ;-) > > CU on 137kHz > > Marco, IK1HSS