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Content preview: Two T/A signals at the same time, and on almost the same bearing: VO1NA 280.1 deg at 3575.4 km W4DEX 284.6 deg at 6194.2 km [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 75bd9e83b9a4dd6aff3296cebc5bb885 Subject: Re: LF: W4DEX at 8270 Hz - and VO1NA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Two T/A signals at the same time, and on almost the same bearing: VO1NA 280.1 deg at 3575.4 km W4DEX 284.6 deg at 6194.2 km This couldn't have happened any better if we'd planned it. Perfect timing by Dex to come on to 8270 when he did. Markus wrote: > The directional lobe seems rather sharp The bearing of each Fourier bin is calculated (mod 360) and any bins which have bearing outside a +/- 20 degree band around the chosen azimuth, are suppressed by setting their magnitude to a small value. This is the 'filtered bearings' part of it. That gives the impression of sharpness as you swing the compass. The bins which survive the filtering then have their magnitudes re-calculated by synthesizing a cardioid aimed on the bin's bearing. Thus we obtain some extra gain in the forward direction and a null in the opposite direction. It is possible to run without the bearing filter stage, then you just get the cardioid response. This may be better in some situations. I've got a slicker version of the spectrogram in the pipeline and that will have the option to filter bearings or not. But I won't try to finish that until I've upgraded the H receiver. > What is the latency between the end of a one-hour buffer and > the time the latest spectrogram comes online? About an hour. > are you still using three separate stereo soundcards with > individual timing corrections, Still three M-Audio 192 PCI cards 24 bit 192k/sec. Each has VLF signal into one channel and a shaped PPS into the other. Three instances of vtcard and vttime, and a vtjoin to align them by timestamp. The result is a 3-channel stream. Various things T-off that. A vtresample to 48k/sec and a vtwrite records /raw continuously and the spectrogram dips into /raw with vtread to grab one hour segments. > Could downconvert-and-decimate be used to speed up FFT > calculations for the narrow spectrogram? The one hour segments of 3-axis stream are passed through a vtfilter which applies the phase EQ for each channel, then through the sferic blanker, then mixed down and resampled to 240 samples/sec before the bank of Goertzel filters. I don't think it would be any quicker to replace the Goertzel bank with a fast Fourier transform. I'm very keen to eliminate the three PCI sound cards and replace them with one capture device but so far I haven't found one good enough. -- Paul Nicholson --