Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id vBOGDTlw018704 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 17:13:32 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1eT8on-0003X6-Qb for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 16:08:05 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1eT8om-0003Wv-U7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 16:08:04 +0000 Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.197]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eT8ok-0005Lf-3g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 16:08:03 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.125] ([72.224.254.201]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus001 [74.208.5.2]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0Lhu9U-1eoTHA1EdG-00n0ka for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2017 17:07:58 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4ffc7958-810a-e4d2-7745-258a58338934@n1bug.com> <5A3AE81B.9010205@posteo.de> <5A3B8FB1.1020403@posteo.de> <7ee833a8-04b4-4712-d927-7eccf37eec14@n1bug.com> <5A3D9BC1.1040609@posteo.de> <6fa587ef-d5b0-6a67-b604-ba94144444f7@n1bug.com> <5A3E77DD.4090908@posteo.de> <103A2C60B87B4930A99ED33442E477AF@StevePC> <792271d9-34bb-3fb1-140c-c322015e2e9b@n1bug.com> <5A3F9D04.90800@posteo.de> From: N1BUG Message-ID: <1c8a9330-43ed-8ff7-2418-58ee935bd883@n1bug.com> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2017 11:07:56 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Ka65mHg8012s3jG2IWcK1MWqFQn1WDpUMXVcLh0/5aecxIW8PXb c5IffKNAlhK9VcaKq3BL/+xErYGErwlZLj4uplgg4r9PTPdHdorA9IYluqAHqz050CLXmzF yawAFerX8ipO1JoyHcPKiveckVVmKJ9bu8jQpekypzIn/feCGGEOs2Yfr4baZeEfEyKBHsS zJNaDXuh6iVdA2x6Y3jBg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:szZp3hEK6j4=:16JJ4f45wjtD6oNyXbRcc4 Ud4dM9z43PB+SrCSKTod9Pi7BY1DhA8UolJvkFoXEegIPgmsbh8EuF/Q1ysDXL//g2ELIDQnF Ht/Unb0yZNiOM1qDfOlmpG0aKTyYrNYCl9cSWYpZ3daktOKto1STLmmTfRuxUw9KOydemQQYu Ouyk7+JkVUWTpR307zkMFkZyzLphX600SSL2EtXv+l0FaDgI6dKyVBZkHTcSStMrBPokawyPw N97NyxgCu6fLhprpOJQVmdcIUUgqLvICHBBNCGdCv5RVIcZ88rPiChA8Emhd43UW8RfItAxSm R7Ygpq/Gr4xGvMwV0oN3mov5JKoW1/8STQceHyrOyQiMj5nwuQ0n0Ln/5pp0XISvgNxWCEM/F wc+BALAhWcj8tnFaZMo3NNxBIeFH+m9A2hh6WbvK/CG95MqIAWYpAn+6EcmihDiubRpjD7IXR +S/no6//gYN5Lbhkf/zwxAQkf8zxF/9vwLPAysg3PDe+GokygXWgqjXXWLIDksv1THC3QiebL Ue4ZqnI+In1gHZabQpeQHHvVva15dFgjFGBOO7A3J7k4y7aSI0kOWjFGTCpq3J0GWfyZUuBQR mR3p0Lja7CciD34bjhEwYaSa8tIopPIf+GVuJLZooHzKMTS8QT+Q6YO1MiiUHFckUKpEIxG1U o2WJAZzcxIzVt8kbWeDmsA2ffy7q2Ou/7bhCilu1+Far42owfvtcrY0GkKz+A8jYnEu/uXzVR KL4S0nT/YABc5Iq91o1L5bruHy2krv7OOWq369pLcf/VTcKclhYiQU/yIWU= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 12/24/2017 07:40 AM, Andy Talbot wrote: > Are you sure your 50uH choke is doing its job? No. I'm not sure of anything! I'm a HF/VHF/UHF and tube amplifier guy who decided to get on LF. Working with FETs and ferrite is all new to me. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-Scan-Signature: 0a4643e586472c13187d293ec5d096c2 Subject: Re: LF: TXing 2200m WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false On 12/24/2017 07:40 AM, Andy Talbot wrote: > Are you sure your 50uH choke is doing its job? No. I'm not sure of anything! I'm a HF/VHF/UHF and tube amplifier guy who decided to get on LF. Working with FETs and ferrite is all new to me. > 9t to get 50uH > suggests ferrite witout a gap.  IN which case FDC thought the > winding will be saturating the ferrite, driving it into non > linearity and reduced L > > Use iron dust or GAPPED ferrite Yes, I am using ferrite without a gap. I have an iron dust T-106-2 core available but would have to use rather small enameled wire to get the required 61 turns for 50 uH, or else more than one layer of winding. I could temporarily borrow a T-157-26 core from another project. That would require only 23 turns which would easily fit being it's a rather large core. Unfortunately I now have a rather large amount of ice on the antenna and cannot do any more testing. It would appear this ice isn't going to melt for at least a week. :( 73, Paul N1BUG