Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id vANLgBCC007824 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 22:42:14 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1eHzBs-0003l8-OB for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 21:37:48 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1eHzBs-0003ky-Dv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 21:37:48 +0000 Received: from omr-a018e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.64]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eHzBo-00082n-JH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 21:37:47 +0000 Received: from mtaomg-aak01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aak01.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.227]) by omr-a018e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C724C38000B2 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 16:37:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-acx08c.mail.aol.com (core-acx08.mail.aol.com [172.27.155.133]) by mtaomg-aak01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4E0BF38000082 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2017 16:37:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from 188.194.222.230 by webjas-vac068.srv.aolmail.net (10.96.19.71) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 23 Nov 2017 16:37:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 16:37:42 -0500 From: Markus Vester To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-Id: <15fead09646-1724-753d@webjas-vac068.srv.aolmail.net> In-Reply-To: <5A1738B2.5060403@posteo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: JAS STD X-Originating-IP: [188.194.222.230] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1511473062; bh=h45CclY1NrOaA7bc4jE593BPEg7wXREn2PbEq2xnlx8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=X9Bf9pFqABzaUx9JQ7fmmr0o81otFJa487Q2xFeNX2BrjI02aNPwjt5jSo6EOW4tH lVaGnVovuXfTjao57WwsCRUrXA1blwz2NLw4SyOCSwgMIBIWF5mmQlKsXbHEWBtGw6 7gCfkJ9fLANWTlNFMrjudyxlNCiVfgSZpqEFmLUU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b02e35a173fa62642 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Confusion... this band is apparently too wide for us ;-)) Clemens mentioned interference on 475.2 - 475.8 kHz. I pointed out the Hell signal which is really on 476.2 - 476.9 kHz. Stefan's reply refered to the four unstable carriers between 474.2 - 474.5 kHz. It is indeed remarkable that what looks like SMPS QRM is being carried that far - the source must be connected to some large "antenna". [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 13abe497adcf17a4e25c5e2a2ff79111 Subject: Re: LF: Strange signal on MW Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_39111_1797845980.1511473059397" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------=_Part_39111_1797845980.1511473059397 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Confusion... this band is apparently too wide for us ;-)) Clemens mentioned interference on 475.2 - 475.8 kHz. I pointed out the Hell signal which is really on 476.2 - 476.9 kHz. Stefan's reply refered to the four unstable carriers between 474.2 - 474.5= kHz. It is indeed remarkable that what looks like SMPS QRM is being carrie= d that far - the source must be connected to some large "antenna". Alll the best, Markus =20 -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: DK7FC An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Do, 23. Nov 2017 22:09 Betreff: Re: LF: Strange signal on MW Indeed! :-) But the chirpy signal between 474.2...474.6 is actually QRM. It is there s= ince years and also visible on the DL3ZID grabber in noth DL, a few 100km d= istant. I like the signal from DL6TY :-) 73, Stefan Am 23.11.2017 21:47, schrieb Markus Vester:=20 Hi Clemens, HELL from DL6TY? http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_remote_Grabber.html http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_remote_RDF_Grabber.html 73, Markus -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Clemens Paul An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Do, 23. Nov 2017 21:39 Betreff: LF: Strange signal on MW Hello MWers! I see and hear a strange noisy broad signal sweeping between about 475,2 a= nd 475.6kHz. On the waterfall it looks like a jamming signal from a SPSU. But I can see and hear it also on the remote perseus in Amberg. So it can't be loacal. Maybe someone can take a bearing? 73 Clemens DL4RAJ=20 ... ------=_Part_39111_1797845980.1511473059397 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Confusion... this band is apparently too wi= de for us ;-))


Clemens mentioned interference on 475.2 - 47= 5.8 kHz.
I pointed out the Hell signal which is really on 476.= 2 - 476.9 kHz.
 Stefan's reply refered to the four unstab= le carriers between 474.2 - 474.5 kHz. It is indeed remarkable that wh= at looks like SMPS QRM is being carried that far - the source must be conne= cted to some large "antenna".


Alll the best,
Markus
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Von: DK7FC <selberdenken@= posteo.de>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org>
Verschickt: Do, 23. Nov 2017 22:09
Betreff: Re: LF: Strange signal on MW

Indeed! :-)
But the chirpy signal between 474.2...474.6 is actually QRM. It is there since years and also visible on the DL3ZID grabber in noth DL, a few 100km distant.

I like the signal from DL6TY :-)

73, Stefan


Am 23.11.2017 21:47, schrieb Markus Vester:

Hi Clemens,

HELL from DL6TY?
http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_= vlf/DK7FC_remote_Grabber.html
http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/scha= efer_vlf/DK7FC_remote_RDF_Grabber.html

73, Markus

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Von: Clemens Paul = <cpaul@gmx.net>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Do, 23. Nov 2017 21:39
Betreff: LF: Strange signal on MW

Hello MWers!

I see and hear a strange noisy broad signal sweeping between about 475,2 and 475.6kHz.
On the waterfall it looks like a jamming signal from a SPSU.
But I can see and hear it also on the remote perseus in Amberg.
So it can't be loacal.
Maybe someone can take a bearing?

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ

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