Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by klubnl.pl (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id v9KAk0Zq003780 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 12:46:01 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1e5UbU-00053Z-W9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 11:32:36 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1e5UbT-00053Q-UU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 11:32:35 +0100 Received: from omr-a010e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.54]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1e5UbQ-0005w5-JF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 11:32:34 +0100 Received: from mtaomg-aam02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aam02.mx.aol.com [172.27.19.148]) by omr-a010e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A05833800091 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 06:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-acb05e.mail.aol.com (core-acb05.mail.aol.com [172.27.24.5]) by mtaomg-aam02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 242E838000082 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 06:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 188.192.44.165 by webjas-vac228.srv.aolmail.net (10.96.19.231) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 20 Oct 2017 06:32:27 -0400 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 06:32:29 -0400 From: Markus Vester To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-Id: <15f39575e42-c11-13576@webjas-vac228.srv.aolmail.net> In-Reply-To: <15f36241a09-c0b-33ac@webjas-vab101.srv.aolmail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: JAS STD X-Originating-IP: [188.192.44.165] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1508495549; bh=cQDxgVOeCMdadpu1cx67GnuEzOBxMNDqEJpb72ZJ9bs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WerEaD8XNpi844Vrf/Nq77+WR2dt7BmKmhfwEUQBDOMWorvoMxWKMHe1JamvgIq0d UikXQENlIazga27llCOkL3klmKMS2JpeX2EqFHeKXFEziavv+jS7GEBRNMHaXDZvWP R5cSHgxA3Hhw0LerIwBovC2436bOq05wu+JvZ6LM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b139459e9d0bd1cb2 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Yesterday the carrier was on until 20:30 UT, but completely invisible in Heidelberg during the evening. This morning I transmitted a couple of hours more (08:23 to 10:30, 0.19 A), leaving a a nice trace again. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 7c995d39cde70605aa76dd18810a4256 Subject: Re: VLF: 5170.0025 Hz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_99077_2125624516.1508495547970" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------=_Part_99077_2125624516.1508495547970 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yesterday the carrier was on until 20:30 UT, but completely invisible in He= idelberg during the evening. This morning I transmitted a couple of hours m= ore (08:23 to 10:30, 0.19 A), leaving a a nice trace again. Best 73, Markus -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Markus Vester An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Do, 19. Okt 2017 21:37 Betreff: Re: VLF: 5170.0025 Hz Yes the signal level change was quite drastic. During the early afternoon, = some trace was just visible in your 3.8 mHz instance. Now there is even a s= mall sharp peak in Cumiana. Unfortunately at DL0AO, all computers have stal= led at 15:30 UT. Best 73, Markus -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: DK7FC An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Do, 19. Okt 2017 19:07 Betreff: Re: VLF: 5170.0025 Hz ...oh, indeed. I thought you already stopped transmitting but now i see on = the DL0AO grabber that you are still on the air! Quite a difference between= 12 and 16 UTC, 8...10 dB i estimate. I'm now starting to wind the last bucket for the new coil and may join in = later... Good to have these grabbers available all the time, luxurious! 73, Stefan Am 19.10.2017 18:42, schrieb Markus Vester:=20 Despite constant transmit antenna current, my signal level on Stefan's grab= ber dropped very significantly over the hours between midday and evening. T= his may be the day-night effect again: As the distance between Heidelberg a= nd N=C3=BCrnberg (178 km) is shorter than Heidelberg to Amberg (230 km), th= e skywave is steeper and the extra path relative to groundwave is about 20%= longer. Thus a similar diurnal effect may now happen at lower frequency. = =20 Best 73, Markus -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Markus Vester An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Do, 19. Okt 2017 14:29 Betreff: VLF: 5170.0025 Hz Since 11:46 UT I'm transmitting a carrier on 5170.0025 Hz, antenna current = 0.21 A into approx. 8 m effective height. It looks like nice peaks are buil= ding up on the grabbers in Heidelberg and Amberg. 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Yesterday the carrier was on until 20:30 UT= , but completely invisible in Heidelberg during the evening. This morning I=  transmitted a couple of hours more (08:23 to 10:30, 0.19 A), leaving = a a nice trace again.

Best 73,
Markus

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von= : Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
An: rsgb_lf_gr= oup <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Do, 19= . Okt 2017 21:37
Betreff: Re: VLF: 5170.0025 Hz

Yes the signal level change was quite drastic. During th= e early afternoon, some trace was just visible in your 3.8 mHz instanc= e. Now there is even a small sharp peak in Cumiana. Unfortunately at D= L0AO, all computers have stalled at 15:30 UT.

Best 73,
Markus


-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: DK= 7FC <selberdenken= @posteo.de>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= >
Verschickt: Do, 19. Okt 2017 19:07
Bet= reff: Re: VLF: 5170.0025 Hz

...oh, indeed. I thought you already stopped transmitting but now i see on the DL0AO grabber that you are still on the air! Quite a difference between 12 and 16 UTC, 8...10 dB i estimate.
I'm now starting to wind the last bucket for the new coil and may join in later...
Good to have these grabbers available all the time, luxurious!

73, Stefan

Am 19.10.2017 18:42, schrieb Markus Vester:
Despite constant transmit antenna current, my&nb= sp;signal level on Stefan's grabber dropped very significantly over the hours between midday and evening. This may be the day-night effect again: = As the distance between Heidelberg and N=C3=BCrnberg (178 km) is shorter than Heidelberg to Amberg (230 km), the skywave is steeper and the extra path relative to groundwave is about 20% longer. Thus a similar diurna= l effect may now happen at lower frequency.    =

Best 73,
Markus

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Do, 19. Okt 2017 14:29
Betreff: VLF: 5170.0025 Hz

Since 11:46 UT I'm transmitting a carrier on 5170.0025 Hz, antenna current 0.21 A into approx. 8 m effective height. It looks like nice peaks are building up on the grabbers in Heidelberg and Amberg.

Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

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