Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: EATSERVER: mailn 1166; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id v7C8R3Ch011450 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 10:27:04 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dgRgQ-00077r-3t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 09:22:10 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dgRgO-00077i-TQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 09:22:08 +0100 Received: from porthos.netcom.co.uk ([217.72.171.73]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dgRgK-0003hj-6E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 09:22:07 +0100 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=abelian.org Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=abelian.org ; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=n2iI8WHr9ebfoqOk3waz5T9VIJ9jeuJ9qSBkNceBmkA=; b=3pkG6tq1TG98VHouqf/fyD3vAu X9LPCHezXUuirxQYyGdU+7ZTPycIf/hLWefefr0HuehlMV4pX0i0SmF8GOFsWkTksixLbaax1Uzhk BlJ5fbAuWPrTUmqchvdiRPlcoJ1APs/K99ZsPY/gsQlfX2BK/OqPjzIzQdpz0wJeu220=; Received: from i-194-106-52-83.freedom2surf.net ([194.106.52.83]:38739 helo=pn.abelian.org) by porthos.netcom.co.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dgRgH-0007Gm-Qy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 09:22:02 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pn.abelian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAF04008BC for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2017 08:21:47 +0000 (UTC) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <15db2643c6f-5f13-23c2@webprd-m101.mail.aol.com> <5986259C.8020409@posteo.de> <59864218.1030605@posteo.de> <75b1b001-f17e-35b0-bcb4-6535fe67fc38@sky.com> <59886FDE.20509@posteo.de> <983eafc2-82df-d307-07d8-0070762b99bb@sky.com> <7b4a865e-4408-2ff2-5d02-02e50df8cbed@abelian.org> <0fec3858-7b6a-8bfe-13f8-d07f0413c483@sky.com> From: Paul Nicholson Message-ID: <65293e6a-e27a-2cf5-19b1-cd2941d8396a@abelian.org> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 08:21:47 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0fec3858-7b6a-8bfe-13f8-d07f0413c483@sky.com> X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - porthos.netcom.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - blacksheep.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - abelian.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: porthos.netcom.co.uk: authenticated_id: catchall@abelian.org X-Authenticated-Sender: porthos.netcom.co.uk: catchall@abelian.org X-Scan-Signature: 290c8768709872f914a4ca71ad6bfe49 Subject: Re: LF: vlfrx tools question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12365 Terry wrote: > Apologies to others as this is a bit OT. Probably not very OT, I would say most relevant to LF and VLF operation. Getting gpsd and ntpd running opens the way to using coherent signaling and to be able to combine signals from multiple antennas. Even without coherent operation, the ability to record continuous timestamped raw signal means you never have to miss any activity and you can decide later which direction the antenna needed to point. You can run all your favourite amateur radio programs, but their source is vtread via vtmix, not the antenna signal directly. > gave error messages about: > " can't bind to IPv4 port gpsd, Address already in use" Looks like systemd is restarting gpsd after you killed it. Well, your GPS and ntpd are working OK by the looks of it. It just remains to make systemd launch it at boot time, with the right settings. It is probably also necessary to disable the getty program on /dev/ttyACM0. I don't know anything about systemd, I'd better go learn about it! I grew up in the era of /etc/rc.d and /etc/inittab, traditional unix start-up. systemd is supposed to be better, allowing hot plug devices to be handled and dynamically resolving dependencies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd I can understand the objections that many have to it. Unix philosophy has always been to build systems from small toolkit programs. A giant complicated monolithic program that tries to do everything itself, goes against that. It can probably be used to start up all your vlfrx-tools programs needed for reception and raw storage. In the old days, you just put everything into /etc/rc.local Unfortunately, none of my computers here or at work use systemd so I can't at the moment advise on how to set it up. I'll have to load the latest Raspbian onto a spare RPi and have a play. -- Paul Nicholson --