Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, HTML_MESSAGE,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: wuwien: mailn 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id v7P9xXTq023795 for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 11:59:34 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dlBFo-0007Vz-I4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:50:16 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dlBFn-0007Vq-Dj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:50:15 +0100 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dlBFj-0001Ci-0H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:50:14 +0100 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4043208FB for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 11:50:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3xdxGl2KFNz10Hq for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 11:50:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <599FF2CE.50507@posteo.de> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 11:50:06 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <15e04e6b806-c06-9f4@webjas-vab234.srv.aolmail.net> In-Reply-To: <15e04e6b806-c06-9f4@webjas-vab234.srv.aolmail.net> X-Scan-Signature: f3d1da032404cd5ad9531631c09e3b44 Subject: Re: VLF: Carrier on 4470.005 Hz! - EbNaut test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070802050500000301050506" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12456 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070802050500000301050506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Markus, VLF, Now there is a 28 uHz Spectrogram on my grabber, http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.html Scroll rate is 2 hours per pixel. You can see my own carrier on 4470.005 Hz which is running between the EbNaut messages. Currently the EbNaut message is running for the 3rd time. Yesterday it was quite noisy again. I'm curious to see if Paul can decode the message with 3 stacked days. I find that most fascinating! Stacking daily transmissions is only possible on VLF (or ULF/ELF probably?). So everyone could try to transmit there, even with an 'average' LF transmit antenna. The coil and the stable frequency generation seems to be the problem however. Actually we need some more public relations, more spread information and motivation for potential VLF newcomers. As soon as a critical number of TX and RX stations has been overcome, it can be a self-running movement. The RX capabilities of DL0AO are certainly a new valuable contribution to the RX sites. As soon as the message is decoded on Pauls side, i want to rise the antenna current to 170 mA (~ + 1 dB) and try a longer message, maybe 20 characters or so. There is enough time to run the experiment now... 73, Stefan Am 21.08.2017 15:06, schrieb Markus Vester: > Thanks Stefan! Distance between DF6NM and DL0AO is 48 km. > > Yes a slow window from your tree might possibly receive my signal on > 4470, albeit marginally, with perhaps 10 to 12 dB in 31 > uHz. Unfortunately I won't be able to do long daytime transmissions > before the next weekend. > > Best 73, > Markus > > --------------070802050500000301050506 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Markus, VLF,

Now there is a 28 uHz Spectrogram on my grabber, http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.html
Scroll rate is 2 hours per pixel.
You can see my own carrier on 4470.005 Hz which is running between the EbNaut messages.
Currently the EbNaut message is running for the 3rd time.
Yesterday it was quite noisy again. I'm curious to see if Paul can decode the message with 3 stacked days.
I find that most fascinating! Stacking daily transmissions is only possible on VLF (or ULF/ELF probably?). So everyone could try to transmit there, even with an 'average' LF transmit antenna. The coil and the stable frequency generation seems to be the problem however. Actually we need some more public relations, more spread information and motivation for potential VLF newcomers. As soon as a critical number of TX and RX stations has been overcome, it can be a self-running movement. The RX capabilities of DL0AO are certainly a new valuable contribution to the RX sites.

As soon as the message is decoded on Pauls side, i want to rise the antenna current to 170 mA (~ + 1 dB) and try a longer message, maybe 20 characters or so. There is enough time to run the experiment now...

73, Stefan

Am 21.08.2017 15:06, schrieb Markus Vester:
Thanks Stefan! Distance between DF6NM and DL0AO is 48 km.

Yes a slow window from your tree might possibly receive my signal on 4470, albeit marginally, with perhaps 10 to 12 dB in 31 uHz. Unfortunately I won't be able to do long daytime transmissions before the next weekend.

Best 73,
Markus

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