Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: wuwien: mailn 1290; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id v7UBrHXn004053 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 13:53:18 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dn1S4-00020l-Qx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 12:46:32 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dn1S4-00020c-IG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 12:46:32 +0100 Received: from rgout0801.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk ([65.20.0.148]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dn1S1-0001l7-Lk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 12:46:31 +0100 X-OWM-Source-IP: 86.185.176.70 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: alan.melia@btinternet.com X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=12/50,refid=2.7.2:2017.8.30.111816:17:12.455,ip=,rules=__HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, MSGID_32HEX_LC, INVALID_MSGID_NO_FQDN, __MSGID_32HEX, __HAS_FROM, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __REFERENCES, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_MAILER, USER_AGENT_OE, __OUTLOOK_MUA_1, __USER_AGENT_MS_GENERIC, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_WWW, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __INT_PROD_LOC, __FORWARDED_MSG, __NO_HTML_TAG_RAW, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_1800_1899, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, __URI_NS, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, MSG_THREAD, LEGITIMATE_SIGNS, __OUTLOOK_MUA, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_P, FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, REFERENCES, NO_URI_HTTPS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS Received: from gnat (86.185.176.70) by rgout08.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (9.0.019.13-1) (authenticated as alan.melia@btinternet.com) id 58BFF080125577A7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 12:46:29 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=btcpcloud; t=1504093589; bh=YeLBz/xiJBCBFUqT2l83DtNftOUJ2STTV7RvN24FbZI=; h=Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:X-Mailer; b=K4AIy0cgSAz5tWxqBn5IyOqqnF3WWhDPRqMLE2Wn+07YPc7anPgqmchRXIxG3pToVYRhkzZzfSGWmoUV3YidVucG4H9Fs42vAVs8cSEudSb1Fh1amQ8hPyItzNtw/Qh/YtgnzQkUWQWy1OGK91DgpOfgjs0X/u6kyHsk/uM3j1Q= Message-ID: <385C9CB0F9B441D997EE83C8DBCC2986@gnat> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <15e1991abae-c08-d02c@webjas-vac137.srv.aolmail.net> <59A066BA.7060608@posteo.de> <99e04e4a-b978-829d-dabe-1bd1551f9a19@abelian.org> <22e7826e-60f1-9170-397e-494ad2cab3bd@abelian.org> <59A6A25C.9090305@posteo.de> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 12:46:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Scan-Signature: d7907c3bf895ca41e0bedc3fa074f0d4 Subject: Re: VLF: Carrier on 4470.005 Hz! - EbNaut test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12482 Hi Stefan does EbNaut give you some kind of S/N for these frequencies??. I am interested to know whether the noise reduces with a depressed Dst index or whether the S/N is sensibly the same in the far-field. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "DK7FC" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 12:32 PM Subject: Re: VLF: Carrier on 4470.005 Hz! - EbNaut test > Hi Paul, > > Thanks for the interesting overview. Do you have phase informations for > each day too? It was interesting to see the daily phase variations during > our stacking attempts in last winter, it was the 'TEST' message from 11th > to 17th November. > > BTW if we manage to get a decode, then it will be the (new) lowest > frequency where amateurs managed to send a message from DL to UK, i.e. an > international one way contact! > > Yesterday i saw that it will be a good day (low QRN), today looks even > better, so far. > > 73, Stefan > > > > Am 29.08.2017 23:34, schrieb Paul Nicholson: >> >> Still no decode, not even with known phase. >> >> Daily Eb/N0: >> >> 23rd -6.2 dB >> 24th -16.8 dB >> 25th -9.2 dB >> 26th -10.3 dB >> 27th -9.8 dB >> 28th -15.8 dB >> 29th -8.0 dB >> >> Combined -2.5 dB leaving out 24th and 28th. >> >> > If the message would be unknown, could you still fin out that >> > it is better to leave the 24th out, just by checking the noise >> > background relative to the other days or the days where i sent >> > the carrier? >> >> Yes I've done that in previous tests, dropping out days with a >> high background. Also dropping out one day at a time, then >> two. After that there are too many permutations (each with a >> full phase search). >> >> -- >> Paul Nicholson >> -- >> >