Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=DC_PNG_UNO_LARGO, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: wuwien: mailn 1290; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id v7NK0Wnk019029 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2017 22:00:33 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dkbkQ-0003SS-KF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2017 20:55:30 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dkbkP-0003SJ-Gy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2017 20:55:29 +0100 Received: from omr-a004e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dkbkL-0002Hg-0U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2017 20:55:28 +0100 Received: from mtaomg-aaf01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aaf01.mx.aol.com [172.26.127.99]) by omr-a004e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B560D380004D for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2017 15:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-acx05h.mail.aol.com (core-acx05.mail.aol.com [10.76.14.46]) by mtaomg-aaf01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9DBAD38000086 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2017 15:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 188.192.44.165 by webjas-vae042.srv.aolmail.net (10.96.23.45) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 23 Aug 2017 15:55:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 15:55:21 -0400 From: Markus Vester To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-Id: <15e10a9d5f6-c05-c383@webjas-vae042.srv.aolmail.net> In-Reply-To: <599A8CD1.3080805@posteo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: JAS STD X-Originating-IP: [188.192.44.165] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5800.7501/120265 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1503518122; bh=lZ1wzUzLPs59EQHo/CG8dIGj6CaDVo0DDCcgZIxuKRQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ahtWdzDhBKqGDQVyyjzrVVT9sE3zfCcLGNn9QwAM+MxNP7NwJvL+M8ReNnhN7y/0C SXGeYuTeW9Zwwf6685YR/xUq7jMLvkhFp0H6VWtJVFTbyfVeuOuRSwuzcysW87H+2b CB8/1GbQ1j4rkN8pbYgoyOb6ytlYs4DQJ/Qx/8Gw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7f63599ddda97f94 X-Scan-Signature: 5047c9669d5f66b4c9d7ff0d693cf68a Subject: Re: VLF: Carrier on 4470.005 Hz! Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_62074_1780819586.1503518119414" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12435 ------=_Part_62074_1780819586.1503518119414 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_62073_28040888.1503518119414" ------=_Part_62073_28040888.1503518119414 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan, think we got it! The most plausible decode "PEACE" came from the DL0AO EW-a= ntenna, whereas the W-cardioid insisted on "@ !&;". Both files ended half a= n hour early at 18:27, but I was too curious to wait two more hours for the= next FFT output. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: DK7FC An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Mo, 21. Aug 2017 9:35 Betreff: Re: VLF: Carrier on 4470.005 Hz! Hi Paul, Markus, VLF, That's already a nice peak! Markus' 'OK message' came to late last night, = so i let the TX running without starting EbNaut. That's not bad at all beca= use now you will get more energy to produce a better peak. I'm happy with the SNR on these two locations from my first signal between= 4...5 kHz. I'd like to start a somwwhat longer EbNaut message which will be repeated = daily until there are decodes on your RX sites. For DL0AO it could work wit= h 1...2 days stacked and for Paul we may need 2...4 days: f =3D 4470.005000 Hz Start time: 22.August.2017 04:00:00 UTC Symbol period: 60 s Characters: 5 CRC bits: 6 Coding 16K21A Duration: 14h56min Antenna current: 150 mA (suggested optimum list length: 9) Great, i'm excited and curious to see if you will get that message :-) 73, Stefan Am 21.08.2017 00:58, schrieb Paul Nicholson:=20 > Anything on Pauls RX?=20 So far,=20 http://abelian.org/vlf/tmp/170820a.gif=20 About 10.5 dB in the 12 hour integration.=20 --=20 Paul Nicholson=20 -- ------=_Part_62073_28040888.1503518119414 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Stefan,

think we got it! The mos= t plausible decode "PEACE" came from the DL0AO EW-antenna, whereas the W-ca= rdioid insisted on "@ !&;". Both files ended half an hour early at 18:2= 7, but I was too curious to wait two more hours for the next FFT output.

Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)



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Von: DK7FC <selberdenken@posteo.de>An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Mo, = 21. Aug 2017 9:35
Betreff: Re: VLF: Carrier on 4470.005 Hz!

Hi Paul, Markus, VLF,

That's already a nice peak! Markus' 'OK message' came to late last night, so i let the TX running without starting EbNaut. That's not bad at all because now you will get more energy to produce a better peak.
I'm happy with the SNR on these two locations from my first signal between 4...5 kHz.
I'd like to start a somwwhat longer EbNaut message which will be repeated daily until there are decodes on your RX sites. For DL0AO it could work with 1...2 days stacked and for Paul we may need 2...4 days:

f =3D 4470.005000 Hz
Start time: 22.August.2017  04:00:00 UTC
Symbol period: 60 s
Characters: 5
CRC bits: 6
Coding 16K21A
Duration: 14h56min
Antenna current: 150 mA

(suggested optimum list length: 9)

Great, i'm excited and curious to see if you will get that message :-)

73, Stefan



Am 21.08.2017 00:58, schrieb Paul Nicholson:

> Anything on Pauls RX?

So far,

 http://= abelian.org/vlf/tmp/170820a.gif

About 10.5 dB in the 12 hour integration.

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Paul Nicholson
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--------------------------------------------- found QPL,= list rank 81 reference phase 0 0 0 0 carrier S/N 12.99 dB in 18.6 uHz, -34.31 dB in 1Hz, -68.29 dB in 2.5kHz carrier Es/N0 -16.53 dB carrier Eb/N0 -1.56 dB info bit period 1886.32 seconds symbol error rate 398/896 = 44.420 % Es/N0 from symbol errors -20.0 dB Eb/N0 from symbol errors -5.0 dB Shannon capacity 1.9 bits/hour Shannon efficiency 100.3 % symbols file EW08230331-symbols.csv elapsed 10 seconds --------------------------------------------- found PEACE list rank 0 reference phase 180 180 180 180 carrier S/N 14.88 dB in 18.6 uHz, -32.42 dB in 1Hz, -66.40 dB in 2.5kHz carrier Es/N0 -14.64 dB carrier Eb/N0 0.33 dB info bit period 1886.32 seconds symbol error rate 368/896 = 41.071 % Es/N0 from symbol errors -15.9 dB Eb/N0 from symbol errors -0.9 dB Shannon capacity 2.9 bits/hour Shannon efficiency 65.3 % symbols file EW08230331-symbols.csv elapsed 20 seconds --------------------------------------------- found P_1XG list rank 3 reference phase -150 180 -150 180 carrier S/N 14.99 dB in 18.6 uHz, -32.31 dB in 1Hz, -66.29 dB in 2.5kHz carrier Es/N0 -14.53 dB carrier Eb/N0 0.45 dB info bit period 1886.32 seconds symbol error rate 370/896 = 41.295 % Es/N0 from symbol errors -16.1 dB Eb/N0 from symbol errors -1.1 dB Shannon capacity 3.0 bits/hour Shannon efficiency 63.7 % symbols file EW08230331-symbols.csv elapsed 377 seconds ------=_Part_62074_1780819586.1503518119414 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=W08230331-log.txt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=W08230331-log.txt ebnaut-rx V0.7 input file W08230331.wav sample rate 0.152413 per second rx frequency 4470 file start time 2017-08-22 12:35:49.340 polynomial 16K21A crc size 6 number of chars 5 block size 36 symbol period 60.000 number of symbols 896 list length 100 start offset 55476.700 freq offset 0.005000 cores 2 skipped 55474.452555 seconds to start padded 1732.141 seconds at end initial reference phase -89.2 --------------------------------------------- found @ !&; list rank 20 reference phase 180 180 180 180 carrier S/N 14.55 dB in 18.6 uHz, -32.75 dB in 1Hz, -66.73 dB in 2.5kHz carrier Es/N0 -14.97 dB carrier Eb/N0 0.00 dB info bit period 1886.32 seconds symbol error rate 387/896 = 43.192 % Es/N0 from symbol errors -18.3 dB Eb/N0 from symbol errors -3.3 dB Shannon capacity 2.7 bits/hour Shannon efficiency 70.4 % symbols file W08230331-symbols.csv elapsed 19 seconds --------------------------------------------- found @ !&; list rank 0 reference phase 150 150 150 150 carrier S/N 14.55 dB in 18.6 uHz, -32.75 dB in 1Hz, -66.73 dB in 2.5kHz carrier Es/N0 -14.97 dB carrier Eb/N0 0.00 dB info bit period 1886.32 seconds symbol error rate 383/896 = 42.746 % Es/N0 from symbol errors -17.7 dB Eb/N0 from symbol errors -2.7 dB Shannon capacity 2.7 bits/hour Shannon efficiency 70.4 % symbols file W08230331-symbols.csv elapsed 59 seconds --------------------------------------------- found @ !&; list rank 3 reference phase 180 180 150 150 carrier S/N 14.42 dB in 18.6 uHz, -32.88 dB in 1Hz, -66.86 dB in 2.5kHz carrier Es/N0 -15.10 dB carrier Eb/N0 -0.13 dB info bit period 1886.32 seconds symbol error rate 386/896 = 43.080 % Es/N0 from symbol errors -18.1 dB Eb/N0 from symbol errors -3.1 dB Shannon capacity 2.6 bits/hour Shannon efficiency 72.4 % symbols file W08230331-symbols.csv elapsed 178 seconds ------=_Part_62074_1780819586.1503518119414--