Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: EATSERVER: mailn 1166; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id v6CBxBQs014300 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:59:12 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dVG8G-0003Y0-SZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 12:48:40 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dVG8E-0003Xp-Hc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 12:48:38 +0100 Received: from mail-lf0-x22c.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c07::22c]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dVG8B-0004Xj-IS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 12:48:37 +0100 Received: by mail-lf0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id z78so13967613lff.0 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:48:35 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4kZdREZB/xy6/nWrDv1pbcINsuHVmCU79MOs5Juv0ZI=; b=eE6Vox78xACaBeuBvvJ6Bl7CBn02i2fqBOmz/W1twHZTXvIfxVT7QwCMeDCvSdLD9K nLchvssjOp3WM3NXDVgNxKBgYA5jhpTUO2EHACInVfL/YlwdE6hZrOdWFoUizOcvw2rQ PX85rWq+FNVFSxq1b7cy3LFgBh8LCdnhTRnd1VXS9jj1mnM4NWh1bug3Ro8yL9hi+ZRP 8kLw2vzHkwNyTx/BS+1UMXzPdXZfhxV/LQA2p+phez19pLm4ir2twroMdjQafaNMeDIc m1ky6s87VuyDyL+botBJl0tHqdFrLhitCvfBS2bkVYo8n+HTrqS+wDKUDUJ2wNApvzpk uJRA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4kZdREZB/xy6/nWrDv1pbcINsuHVmCU79MOs5Juv0ZI=; b=GnLSJt1/7F2Xj9cdglBX9WPBbvMwAX0V5YlP9vsiOXR4Fe6KhgJJ6rTLk8Jp8QHkXn 9CI7gUTkuxEDX/BAsgLVuDB1ZJ3HDXC+BV1U5s4/XTNmSbhxjhWaUHOWCqI7hpuk/RoG mgGbPNH5aIj/tZMQrTllJIWhmnigCXNRwg+JdcGd9V97YryR1YaXHVwXlf1nQaRxWUyT QlRJ88NmFMxtzZpYfLLMrVieX6Kwhnwsz7QUxyexcWcG+L9Tg0uORsuqfsK/njV5bIYB gxV5VoEQSj+JGlEPZsEpXA6V1GaJTQmseHOm28nnFLAnQkzK/6Ye5hVcKTj5T7eA7muP /eSw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw110M6mY1X/O4OXBIZDHaye16IKgYzhlT8p5OWW8ZdzYUm9BM7ss2 gTCjRwjjzZQP0ulLo6GO4YJwmYpF9Q== X-Received: by 10.80.213.84 with SMTP id f20mr5900720edj.69.1499860114170; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:48:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.80.226.193 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 04:48:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Warren Ziegler Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 07:48:33 -0400 Message-ID: To: rsgb_lf_group X-Scan-Signature: e6de17d69e46ff4ea8db042ef2cd7e46 Subject: Re: LF: TDF on 162 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lipkowski.org id v6CBxBQs014300 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12216 Dennis, Thank you! Very good information! I am restricted to 130-190kHz, then nothing until 460kHz. I am hoping to find something in the 130-190kHz band outside of 135.7-137.8 Vy 73 Warren On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 1:04 AM, Dennis wrote: >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Juli 2017 um 02:22 Uhr >> Von: "Warren Ziegler" >> An: rsgb_lf_group >> Betreff: LF: TDF on 162 kHz >> >> Hello the list, >> Can anyone inform me about the bandwidth and any artifacts from >> the TDF time signal from Allouis? > > > Hi Warren! > > Here in Germany there is plenty of ionospheric cross modulation on the 162khz carrier. I'd rather suggest to go slightly above the longwave radio spectrum. Ashgabat 179khz is audible in Berlin at least in winter nights. Another suggestion: Danmarks radio Kalundborg seems to be "alone" on 243khz and transmits in timeslots only. > > Greetings! > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1