Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: : mailn 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id v6OFkdMN019839 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 17:46:40 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dZfSz-0003b0-9x for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:40:17 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dZfSw-0003ar-KF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:40:14 +0100 Received: from mail-lf0-x22c.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c07::22c]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dZfSt-0006tK-P8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:40:13 +0100 Received: by mail-lf0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id m86so38769025lfi.4 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:40:11 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=yr1WmbgWiWX+3OFRluKp1O5SinqCIrdaz+jmcgBL0nk=; b=fFWpxnMm1z80ODxphhbiRg1hcxyK1jidfW2s0uZG3ea/14Mww81zLjBhHqa+uBOVXx NHYDJbhOLP0EpKzvBbpN8AkdI10fCyqB9YisU4aewXpvXgW/afZHPd8+BIm3MOnTbCNP X9zGHh+0IhretB8sua9UNRaTWHj2dD/JaHbWCu/0nVgsIs5Ip6poQUZz88RoykgfqG6W +y3jG0DIqdzjF375/e/nlwat4/i0sw89sV2lUSpgVYYYatODuc2K7AXnKpeokvDhxI+I jzwUGkv6azZq8goINL78A/rJGyJ8Zy+aPRymcQGj7ds6xo1Bs2YTJkGcQ2ctUnT6EvjS UEiw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=yr1WmbgWiWX+3OFRluKp1O5SinqCIrdaz+jmcgBL0nk=; b=LjDOMTHiyA9WtikxvzFGgKha339GYZgdOlbruhlFx6KNQxGRqITXL+mMAlEN64cNDV o+HAUaWPPmdh8b/Vyv39CuYIJ8EFUz/fFeOtJsuI1XlbamlWzeZLNo03NRzRkBE9OBK1 6DTv0t7BDL0RpTEuBtkdHKMLEjhzUijMykfBktDy9vUGWtUrWaUT2jPevQlNkWSyCelM arHH5ge2LN0zUgjz6uQJgeTmY6Bid0MHHZyFmM//KlxwsffkuFONzOS82EN4G78SCud6 hOsQ+OkDAnQMB3/dtohTc1Vgag4Ux9pKO8Ab44jihdhEkKuM97FBDWwAk8mUJ2VQc+YD pM4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw112dTqGvusO24g+Af5WdNle57dyd/zY3b9A5zz6dmuiOBTEoeO1l 7dlmaRD1+X0cGjXNY4L/k9mT3QOioQ== X-Received: by 10.46.83.68 with SMTP id t4mr6212253ljd.155.1500910809433; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:40:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.22.169 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:40:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <699365699.20170724155823@gmail.com> References: <1091782271.20170724143346@gmail.com> <5975FA1E.8090400@posteo.de> <699365699.20170724155823@gmail.com> From: Andy Talbot Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:40:08 +0100 Message-ID: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Scan-Signature: 1273381c241b4bc851b7e848e0897dc9 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Antenna change over relay question Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c1cf9eaa2c96205551207e6" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12284 --94eb2c1cf9eaa2c96205551207e6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Digressing slightly, but a parallel warning... I once hot disconnected a BNC plug carrying 700 Watts of RF (Low Z, transmitter output) . As the contact broke it generated a plasma arc that shot out of the BNC plug that I dropped in shock. It continued to burn, vaporising the centre pin of the BNC, and burning a mark into the floor surface I'd dropped it onto. 'jnt On 24 July 2017 at 15:58, Chris Wilson wrote: > Hello Ian, > > You have me worried now, as does Andy with his last post, the thought > of putting a kilowatt into the RX antenna socket of my 590 is not a > pleasant or cheap one... Hmmm. > > > > Monday, July 24, 2017, 3:40:38 PM, you wrote: > > > Hi Chris/Stefan > > > Loosely connected to your question, I wanted to switch my Inv L between > > LF/MF Variometer/loading coils and HF Auto remote tuner remotely, i.e > 120' > > away from the shack. > > > Every relay I tried had insulation break down and contact arc over. Only > > running 360 W at MF and 300 at LF. > > > My solution was to fabricate a 3 position Knife type switch operated via > a > > Servo motor to switch the antennae and a standard 20 Amp Rated relay for > the > > RF inputs to the Tuner and Variometers. > > > No more insulation break down or arc over. The contacts are mounted on > Old > > Eddystone porcelain insulators. > > > I would be interested to know how the relay holds up with 1 kW at 136 > kHz. > > > 73 > > > Ian G4GIR > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Chris mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com > > > --94eb2c1cf9eaa2c96205551207e6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Digressing slightly, but a parallel warning...
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I once hot disconnected =C2=A0a BNC plug carrying 700 Watts o= f RF (Low Z, transmitter output) . =C2=A0 =C2=A0As the contact broke it gen= erated =C2=A0a plasma arc that shot out of the BNC plug that I dropped in s= hock.=C2=A0 It continued to burn, vaporising the centre pin of the BNC, and= burning a mark into the floor surface I'd dropped it onto.

'jnt


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 24 July 2017 at 15:58, Chris Wilson <dead.= fets@gmail.com> wrote:
Hell= o Ian,

You=C2=A0 have me worried now, as does Andy with his last post, the thought=
of=C2=A0 putting=C2=A0 a kilowatt into the RX antenna socket of my 590 is n= ot a
pleasant or cheap one... Hmmm.



Monday, July 24, 2017, 3:40:38 PM, you wrote:

> Hi Chris/Stefan

> Loosely connected to your question, I wanted to switch my Inv L betwee= n
> LF/MF Variometer/loading coils and HF Auto remote tuner remotely, i.e = 120'
> away from the shack.

> Every relay I tried had insulation break down and contact arc over. On= ly
> running 360 W at MF and 300 at LF.

> My solution was to fabricate a 3 position Knife type switch operated v= ia a
> Servo motor to switch the antennae and a standard 20 Amp Rated relay f= or the
> RF inputs to the Tuner and Variometers.

> No more insulation break down or arc over. The contacts are mounted on= Old
> Eddystone porcelain insulators.

> I would be interested to know how the relay holds up with 1 kW at 136 = kHz.

> 73

> Ian G4GIR






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Best regards,
=C2=A0Chris=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com



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