Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: : mailn 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u2) with ESMTP id v6ODeODG019433 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:40:26 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dZdUe-0002fU-NC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 14:33:52 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dZdUe-0002fD-De for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 14:33:52 +0100 Received: from mail-wr0-x235.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c0c::235]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dZdUa-0005uB-Sl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 14:33:51 +0100 Received: by mail-wr0-x235.google.com with SMTP id 12so106475292wrb.1 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 06:33:48 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:message-id:to:subject:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wEqDTQWugqqXC+NoRMVe3zFW1P/49WZIWoW455Wj5Vk=; b=CTG8ZL5UPqON0OctKtTFpIZFwFQTks9uav0wPRhq112YkPVYFmaweME6C38uAkyjpK UF1HxHuQNDudtrpJuWlhH631afU+oQHRC34zU6UvudT1+cCWE8qk4z11DK30N6Pcq3BI SHDozl5p2exPMG20VbP0Lj8nOUcGZJ8DLRJOGnXx8gUIAAvczZUJXdKDFopaCXklY9v0 HeOFdHR1S9qyFCYApteo9dcgmDliOGVCNXf9lIWkQc0u2h6KEIjDbvSLaCwN23J1iDSv 8UAd87bxdH7H1bRo7cakWLo3MB+mcTFfnRzS2glAQSEjfkjlKMiKUzlSGC26GFk6c5Ci Or9w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:message-id:to:subject:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wEqDTQWugqqXC+NoRMVe3zFW1P/49WZIWoW455Wj5Vk=; b=SFGCzDBfAHhzpvXn+yJRDyPa9K7DIaTkX7HVV0CsE93emcMMqc2rFT9QwRj3EhFjuP +Ugmryysud9Mm8PLBO28MCjcioXpxYtBNnqv66GS7hpYmkH+psSO+m/NV6SDAJNilLyR Kao5P4HZREIIyQXuP0sRgCJdz5a32Uhz+KXo8GXnLThlSwE9jgnm6G9NxMHj1N1iGQgT 4ckzlnLnyAn2v/CXPMgCxqbetmU849fpDPJRsG62QYfjwXC8CcWOHQL1KSyNg+m/vzqt B+DZs0t9FPp9fj/YA61afPY5vHmZ9dRMdF8BZ/RfvVUAQ/s0QCRKxVicdhkFDrKClFki 4njg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw110/2+Lk58Ms5tZj+60A1rC2ySKL1QkIpXsHfZnPf343N7FW8CiT mqP/37TKqgVJP9To X-Received: by 10.223.153.106 with SMTP id x97mr15262242wrb.32.1500903228072; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 06:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OfficeWin7.lan (82-70-254-222.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk. [82.70.254.222]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i26sm7855649wmc.34.2017.07.24.06.33.47 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 24 Jul 2017 06:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 14:33:46 +0100 From: Chris Wilson X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1091782271.20170724143346@gmail.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: 7001055fa59a9c23b9831ea6d317a074 Subject: LF: Antenna change over relay question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12277 Hello LF'ers, I have a QRP Labs U3S that is the exciter for a 1kW LF amp. I want the common antenna to switch to feeding my Kenwood TS-590 for RX. The U3S has a pin with selectable delay that goes to 5V high on TX. I need the low current capable output to switch a 24V high power relay, but fail safe with the antenna connected to the amp on any loss of 24V. I can derive the 24V from a boost converted from the 12V that supplies the U3S exciter. What's the best way of making an interface that fails safe please? The relay is a Russian one detailed here, that draws about 200mA held on: http://qro-parts.com/product_info.php?products_id=102 If I use one relay to switch an antenna between a TX and RX (e.g., output of 1 kW amplifier to NO connection and TS-590 to NC connection of the same relay, with COM port to antenna), then de-energized I'd always be in RX mode and energized I'd be in TX mode and there's no way the TX would ever be connected to the RX no matter what failed. But how can I easily ground the antenna input of the TS-590 during TX (or maybe it's safe not to?) Do I need another relay or can I do it with another semiconductor? Thanks -- Best regards, Chris mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com