Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: : mailn 1480; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v5QDl2nJ007186 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 15:47:03 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dPUDy-0005Kj-PV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 14:38:42 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dPUDy-0005Ka-2T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 14:38:42 +0100 Received: from mail-io0-x22f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22f]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dPUDv-0000wc-5k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 14:38:40 +0100 Received: by mail-io0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id h64so981873iod.0 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 06:38:38 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Rlcw90C5uOf2SmDAPzbtR2HSZPkpAGSLqG2wvEjpdZI=; b=GfPnEDF3PwnL0lgodl/BKhGCVaEqcqdhhyae9vtmlRK6wQyRQibYuqyt26z4BYymml mePLZmLMp07h3hOUfhCDSugVSleOptauqj86QnknDLsKdYaRAidyjMirYigQlBrbM0ZY tBfZGRR9+hHpzN0Fxg8PAjCZ3cLaBT8vi8Hj4OD2bL4OFMXqXf8J2D0t71knHS3h/w7p KlABpflemCuuIIOL5ryGHCjpgQCTWfl1cWDM9sGTke6ghkWfC0xHbYvI47/4rvaLo77b jYzCwZYHEjpHltghakan1baOWI6jei8t78yLTPVVry2QFHrTiXYcnqwQuoULBOAlKymi GngA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Rlcw90C5uOf2SmDAPzbtR2HSZPkpAGSLqG2wvEjpdZI=; b=NN6cDDzdzLsRzpn2Ub3Tj72Rm8gQzV0pI85BiQbxTvk30thHdcIYVaRpSie84zlme5 LEupVI1xnIjfIUpPNwlDC8J7m+FtcJecaiBBK7KeHzNTiFw3SjDBV+SZSEaYa+VP0yvq WUYodslWpnOSW4fqpJiAU2TRp10I6/25sDkkPqBjafTKqx1MYH37L/UAuLC3S4tviTpw 2yoN9EtHn2rlNuOMu83eqE4w1XBJOV+To3WEzM64cWrsnPkLjEz4xu62YKVe6bayBvOx nAkuPLdrRgxgUb3tE9dyrJ0G3H7CmHdZM0qAv7yeUjAA+7wMmVQ6ss+qFS8X/Nlg9Lk1 noeg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOzb98nJ6aej6tNV5fP/645wPoBFNRV6WWAU7TePN8z58hZMHy12 gRBqeH4+Px4VjFYF/pieTe8gQip3gg== X-Received: by 10.107.142.21 with SMTP id q21mr288686iod.225.1498484317074; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 06:38:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.36.22.143 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 06:38:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1649946984.20170624173724@gmail.com> References: <1649946984.20170624173724@gmail.com> From: M0FMT Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 14:38:36 +0100 Message-ID: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Scan-Signature: 2ee80849a5d572dbc974bb207a527753 Subject: Re: LF: Insulating a Versatower from ground Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114ba4d66bbd6a0552dd11ae" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12118 --001a114ba4d66bbd6a0552dd11ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi all If its a fairly light weight mast High Voltage Bus Bar insulators may be worth a look. These devises have thread inserts of typically 6 / 8 /10mm and are good for 15kV [plus. I doubt you will come near that level of stress. These thing have a full spec electrically and mechanically so a fag packet design could be worked up. They are not prohibitively expensive. I use them for my insulated pole antennas. The size of thread gives a first cut clue as to their physical strength but would recommend you do the sums and probably keeping them in compression rather than shear where poss is best. E-bay a good source. 73 petefmt On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Chris Wilson wrote: > Hello LF'ers > > > Has anyone tried making insulating bushes for the tilt over hinge and > the bottom locking peg on a crank up / crank over 40 or 60 foot > Versatower? How much of a detrimental effect would the steel 6 foot > above ground, concreted in support post a couple or three inches away > from it have? Specifically I am toying with doing this to use it on LF > 136kHz with my horizontal quad loop as the capacitive "top hat" to > gain as much vertical height for the radiating element as possible, > right now the mast has a long insulated line to the corner of my > horizontal quad > loop with the vertical some way from the mast, although today to > minimise sag from having the vertical some distance away I moved it > nearer the mast. By so doing I have gained maybe another 8 feet of > height. Thanks. > > > > Thanks > > -- > > Best regards, Chris 2E0ILY > > mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com > > > --001a114ba4d66bbd6a0552dd11ae Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all

If its a fairly light= weight mast High Voltage Bus Bar insulators may be worth a look. These dev= ises have thread inserts of typically 6 / 8 /10mm and are good for 15kV [pl= us. I doubt you will come near that level of stress. These thing have a ful= l spec electrically and mechanically so a fag packet design could be worked= up. They are not prohibitively expensive. I use them for my insulated pole= antennas. The size of thread gives a first cut clue as to their physical s= trength but would recommend you do the sums and probably keeping them in co= mpression rather than shear where poss is best. E-bay a good source.
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73 petefmt

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Chris Wilson <d= ead.fets@gmail.com> wrote:
= Hello LF'ers


Has anyone tried making insulating bushes for the tilt over hinge and
the bottom locking peg on a crank up / crank over 40 or 60 foot
Versatower? How much of a detrimental effect would the steel 6 foot
above ground, concreted in support post a couple or three inches away
from it have? Specifically I am toying with doing this to use it on LF
136kHz=C2=A0 with=C2=A0 my=C2=A0 horizontal=C2=A0 quad loop as the capaciti= ve "top hat" to
gain=C2=A0 as=C2=A0 much=C2=A0 vertical height for the radiating element as= possible,
right now the mast has a long insulated line to the corner of my horizontal= quad
loop=C2=A0 with=C2=A0 the=C2=A0 vertical=C2=A0 some=C2=A0 way=C2=A0 from th= e mast, although today to
minimise=C2=A0 sag=C2=A0 from=C2=A0 having=C2=A0 the vertical some distance= away I moved it
nearer=C2=A0 the=C2=A0 mast.=C2=A0 By=C2=A0 so doing I have gained maybe an= other 8 feet of
height. Thanks.



Thanks

=C2=A0 --

=C2=A0 Best regards, Chris 2E0ILY

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 mailto:dead.fets@gmail= .com



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