Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: EATSERVER: mailn 1166; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v5HCUDHR027303 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2017 14:30:14 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dMCo8-0003vr-CP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:26:28 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dMCo7-0003vi-MC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:26:27 +0100 Received: from mail-qk0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22e]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dMCo4-0000i1-Rc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:26:26 +0100 Received: by mail-qk0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id d14so8095462qkb.1 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2017 05:26:24 -0700 (PDT) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=MlZFhx+HsXn4GYCJk7ihR2v+BsQ5yAqS11BZpTlbfoM=; b=RTgUu6B5+H1jM/deNi7kfDec/RayK5/SF8pb8U70EL/Vc813q9ShxRGW6JL1cl+O7G 8mF+QBHjRoAgn6rffjun/VqjvXRpuxwZ8qPRWZBl63ltkmR02ns1eUbZAJ37dLUd1auQ RL30hwfKaN4SYsaJ81Fjb4cthn9g8BJpub/rYidvIKL31McifZozEaoEdNjisSytGUoj 1tRyceTf/IGieE5/tomVYiAhhpsuG4z96JpLrJ4Oo/1GSD4mC/KjlNoj/TWC2BH8ytOk 2vVIDyggZJXG6oIcm49G656bZRpMl0zKm1Lti8s3Rzu0iFQSsV3QXFom5p5kMB/0mxGu aWCg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=MlZFhx+HsXn4GYCJk7ihR2v+BsQ5yAqS11BZpTlbfoM=; b=tdhxxviR413Of08lbxR8uGFS2MLUSHGp+ML1i6tMhXO4OnQ73nxyTx65PMD4uT5ovt lsDMAuyCsLoF8ie0iMtYbWazj8gOTNNB6kZWJyqoS34wenUJFuZm6+lCG2VVYSLhB69V FuDa4F5QPHghBAadfn5hAP6FM0TQM0sMwoc0jgjvrMplFsuy/z2H4cuphIoxFtXS//l4 oiqnBqhmCJ+04+hVbcT7eQmD2wb9wMU0GU9A2Jk4a/1R1RX818mO+7iqOFct/2PV7yET D9UnZvLrZcZIJu6e5Pz2hHSDH2vJ4/fphAtQppok09RtCcdXJB3hWWdt4+7tFw6tpPZv MOrg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOzbDQMeB9Of2vDfkNZrw6puyz//16YSb+e9hl46cK3RUq84STOk NLiuWeLjOx10mEzukRZeZ9gDPZ1GZQ== X-Received: by 10.55.147.3 with SMTP id v3mr17293186qkd.149.1497702382195; Sat, 17 Jun 2017 05:26:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.200.45.48 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jun 2017 05:26:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <59451931.7040701@posteo.de> References: <59451931.7040701@posteo.de> From: Chris Osborn Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:26:21 +0100 Message-ID: To: LF Group X-Scan-Signature: ead411ce91f9601ce3974c7575797436 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR problems Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c08b4fa785944055227024e" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12000 --94eb2c08b4fa785944055227024e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Stefan, Many thanks for the prompt reply. I shall do as you suggest and hopefully cure the problem. 73 Chris On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 12:57 PM, DK7FC wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Try a 1:1 RF ferrite decoupling trasformer, right behind the PA. Maybe > also on the PA input. Try to use a battery for the PA, just for one WSPR > sequence, to see if that solves the problem. If it does, then use common > mode chokes in the PA supply cable. Avoid ground loops. Use shielded > circuits only. > > 73, Stefan > > > Am 17.06.2017 13:20, schrieb Chris Osborn: > >> GA LF, >> >> I have a recurring problem with my home made LF WSPR TX :- >> >> As the PC's audio signal shuts down (after the nominal 2 minute >> transmission time) it picks up RF - this is fed back to the TX input >> causing several seconds of instability. >> >> Has anyone else had this trouble and/or knows of a simple solution? >> >> I've tried putting ferrite rings around the PC's input and output cables >> which solved the problem for a while. >> >> In desperation I'm considering adding a monostable to ground the TX input >> for a few seconds after the PC's AF shuts down, but this will be a last >> resort. >> >> Any useful advice or comments would be most welcome. >> >> 73 >> Chris (G3XIZ) >> > > --94eb2c08b4fa785944055227024e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Stefan,

Many thanks for the= prompt reply.
I shall do as you suggest and hopefully cure the pr= oblem.

73
Chris

On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 12:57 PM, DK7FC <se= lberdenken@posteo.de> wrote:


Am 17.06.2017 13:20, schrieb Chris Osborn:
GA LF,

I have a recurring problem with my home made LF WSPR TX=C2=A0 :-

As the PC's audio signal shuts down (after the nominal 2 minute=C2=A0 t= ransmission time) it picks up RF=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 this is fed back to the TX i= nput causing several seconds of instability.

Has anyone else had this trouble and/or knows of a simple solution?

I've tried putting ferrite rings around the PC's input and output c= ables which solved the problem for a while.

In desperation I'm considering adding a monostable to ground the TX inp= ut for a few seconds after the PC's AF shuts down, but this will be a l= ast resort.

Any useful advice or comments would be most welcome.

73
Chris (G3XIZ)


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