Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: : mailn 1480; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v5QGivPS008080 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 18:44:58 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dPX44-0005u2-8X for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 17:40:40 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dPX43-0005tt-Pu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 17:40:39 +0100 Received: from n2.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com ([212.82.98.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dPX40-0001Zy-12 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2017 17:40:38 +0100 X-DKIM-Result: Domain=sky.com Result=Signature OK DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sky.com; s=s1024; t=1498495234; bh=Ls+oMxbUWLW8VlT9vA+8iHe7HfMa47Ue6TcnoAMBaIk=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=wTQW3ZAXWflPqSsMs965hNfYNMMS3IMlUi+XWOwA48cDg63VonX2XqcgmqlE3VkOxNKJTpu02Ged9b/34svebXmBOx/eSg4LmlmoNQNm89/uPgyyQbMrbDg3X/Ed4aItCEdOJhvCKkQ6jDtijyCli8EqnD6G2lLSLPszBxwT61w= Received: from [212.82.98.131] by n2.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jun 2017 16:40:34 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.67] by t4.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jun 2017 16:40:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jun 2017 16:40:34 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 836741.73165.bm@smtp104.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: PaglENIVM1n9dhU_FYsM8f5WD0UajtGU2GoRGMlBEJe9Kwb 1ogRVnatTeBk_QTyXCW.UN2MzK8HtXQktQl79y4i30KKOH.2n4T6wpxzdyDl sqkkp9AG5eIfqmd..eWaFGzw8ScpsRrNdoi1YYlfed1dk.H0ehayJGzO9PLT 9JOHCkPBvpVLXQ816M1stA2XvY_dIv0b6wZSf6Gzw.KSTp_hGo.7b4LqEumc BBu2lvU80otB_h4QI3ZsWtenfB82xHqhVAFAee2rKb9C4xwHnTc7.7PMl5t2 JeHzOfQsp35DQ_wFMfw56PlGpCIm9qHuTcIOyDxNhbjPvMG6jzC3_k2OpfAN eSLiFVf_Cp5yYtcUdcy3o7hnlrmSBfjDHrR1GlE3vQXD8LQoP0rLnqbXQ8Qo vL7vIc66zlNzYJ11fuui8psAjHvOeqsOf1ykB8UIpEiCoss7QRzlUtyTSEYi 0y_Cax5ywMfO5pMhuhH_2z9lOHQbWFo21on3iVzw0WTPkLeoMb7NwljAMbTK qUVsOkGKVhnCYO2GFIMXH5lzq5Ljfe..ElJdaroAAvgo1Q_ltS3yl2R2W8X. HMeWQ4rdT224oKlR1q6kYThS86tOpX699QkmTviIG9qO43LsdBxckDyOYtuP n7Ac5HfqxI.0Enj.V.LPQJoHxlR5wFENqdlwbeXXL8yDCV.l6S2YFtV9DAD5 XxbZgbq0IuJx7uVeI4Y_Hz8cQdNZzwSmqlDMkL9mJFOEoUXC8M8Fgz0I- X-Yahoo-SMTP: j_3SYsmswBC2aNV_OIrcnikG.xLMmVTqADJjU_0.aphs7U0_qeEUQejE0GGg To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <594D2630.3000709@posteo.de> <15cd91cc8cc-d71-1057d@webprd-a66.mail.aol.com> <59512E45.6090701@posteo.de> From: Terry G0EZY Message-ID: <25291669-eecf-b275-6ac8-0bdae7092f53@sky.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 17:40:33 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59512E45.6090701@posteo.de> Content-Language: en-US X-Scan-Signature: e2fb1a5df1e2bc3146a6f486b4640b03 Subject: Re: LF: Neo6M vs Neo7M Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------BFEB77072EFA54A36EB8F014" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12122 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BFEB77072EFA54A36EB8F014 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Stefan Can the 6M be re-programmed the same as the 7M - as described by Domenico in his post 23 June: ------------------ "in these days, Tony IK1HGI from JN45jj, is transmitting some (not announced) EbNaut test message on LF and he is active in op32. He is using a very stable exciter formed by a GPS Neo-7 which time port TP5 has been reprogrammed to output directly the operating frequency (i.e. 137493,000 Hz). I invite all interested LF operators to try this solution because it's cheap, easy to build and it works ! Riccardo IW4DXW, who had this idea, is writing some post to the group with his indications on buffering the TP5 signal, obtain a BPSK and ASK modulator, reprogramming the GPS parameters." -------------------- Looking forward to reading Riccardo's post on how to do this!! 73 Terry G0EZY On 26/06/2017 16:54, DK7FC wrote: > Hi all, > > The cheap ublox GPS modules are used by many LF amateurs as a 1 PPS > reference signal source. I see there are NEO-7M modules available at > amazon, relatively cheap. > > Is there any improvement of the Neo-7M over the Neo-6M? I had a look > on the data sheets but can't find improvements on the stability or > sensitivity, just the power consumption is lower for the 7M, about 60 > mW less. That's 0.12 Ah per day when running on a '12 V' accu and a > good DC/DC converter. > https://www.u-blox.com/sites/default/files/products/documents/NEO-6_DataSheet_%28GPS.G6-HW-09005%29.pdf > https://www.u-blox.com/sites/default/files/products/documents/NEO-7_DataSheet_%28UBX-13003830%29.pdf > > 73, Stefan > > Am 24.06.2017 11:42, schrieb Domenico IZ7SLZ: >> Tony suggested this one. He said that delivery time is 20 days. >> >> http://www.ebay.it/itm/Ublox-NEO-7M-Flight-Controller-GPS-Module-Built-in-Data-Memory-/282291740343?hash=item41b9e61eb7&_uhb=1 >> --------------BFEB77072EFA54A36EB8F014 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Stefan

Can the 6M be re-programmed the same as the 7M - as described by Domenico in his post 23 June:

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"in these days, Tony IK1HGI from JN45jj, is transmitting some (not announced) EbNaut test message on LF and he is active in op32. He is using a very stable exciter formed by a GPS Neo-7 which time port TP5 has been reprogrammed to output directly the operating frequency (i.e. 137493,000 Hz).
I invite all interested LF operators to try this solution because it's cheap, easy to build and it works !

Riccardo IW4DXW, who had this idea, is writing some
post to the group with his indications on buffering the TP5 signal, obtain a BPSK and ASK modulator, reprogramming the GPS parameters."

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Looking forward to reading Riccardo's post on how to do this!!


73 Terry G0EZY


On 26/06/2017 16:54, DK7FC wrote:
Hi all,

The cheap ublox GPS modules are used by many LF amateurs as a 1 PPS reference signal source. I see there are NEO-7M modules available at amazon, relatively cheap.

Is there any improvement of the Neo-7M over the Neo-6M? I had a look on the data sheets but can't find improvements on the stability or sensitivity, just the power consumption is lower for the 7M, about 60 mW less. That's 0.12 Ah per day when running on a '12 V' accu and a good DC/DC converter.
https://www.u-blox.com/sites/default/files/products/documents/NEO-6_DataSheet_%28GPS.G6-HW-09005%29.pdf
https://www.u-blox.com/sites/default/files/products/documents/NEO-7_DataSheet_%28UBX-13003830%29.pdf

73, Stefan

Am 24.06.2017 11:42, schrieb Domenico IZ7SLZ:


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