Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: EATSERVER: mailn 1166; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v5OHegLo030404 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2017 19:40:43 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dOoyj-00073s-C0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2017 18:36:13 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dOoyd-00073j-AH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2017 18:36:07 +0100 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dOoyZ-00032v-Cj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 24 Jun 2017 18:36:06 +0100 Received: from Clemens0811 ([79.208.157.4]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MJBRC-1dM4t92YN0-002sE0 for ; Sat, 24 Jun 2017 19:36:01 +0200 From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <94719482.20170623130346@gmail.com> <408186507.20170624173207@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <408186507.20170624173207@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 19:36:00 +0200 Message-ID: <1B7B7537AD024FBDAA5E898E3DF21AAB@Clemens0811> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AdLtB6qaZ4th1nrUSoKH/cn+ZTal0gAB9kSg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:1u5+uIkXjxbIPm4PTrBBgwEQjDkea8mmfUYPWY+lx2jBHdS8kKN HVQBPO1QDq246umSJd/Jl4u0XrEIFAf6YfkZ+54YpAiD6WrZCht+wjqkRaukJaJ3DQeHcIY mBr4l5zt2kV5Rm9YHmLwvY3H5g4ercqpPuhvGCv1/7y+r89LXTk1gtJ/dkgSLas/GikQvvW qaQgrcJiK6Wa3r16sX0qw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Vkv9BCAfmZM=:32SkQwzC10EkLb/+TpbFo2 +OfTVdaLMOhhUMZr8jQnMaQCUTQZapfTDBaz59u2zhVCybEBvuJr/Z1NU33nuhQMuJ8rBMVA2 uGhOLbUt5TzeNNNs43pDGCmCvxM0PfRVH7DiGFBHEpWzYs9oAOh4k6Ef18W+Rs8wm9McGmISy W6Ld0MSdQngUrR8hEhpR0NnYhUU7HtGYthI7nBHoQVr1R227x3eYdQpRdGmMTjRrQgrdpUnU/ Ym3I160pPeYuUL00F7nP7R6e+cmzZNh5YL0qWXyvXj+X2JejeehYCoUbUXZPSK8wLtdjdNRLO M0Y815ZR4NRRIMjsdNe8lbEcFFbveZTsYfPVv4ZqMW/6ioGpNcOFahsqPUsLP2pmJ4sqiU8VN EIiOU6IdkPcpY2oNjCayUg7zWow40jG3Np2BbEUz/s9m9tU86XBAAxjvK/u7rMvQmxDzQc5n6 f+/m6OM6Gg8nqvFvvPjixCTrqNkrQrZDeI51OVilD6OVfUf7mttM9FfBB0/PAajFSQXPFjkNX SXhWvbI8n07QV+AREMN2ZSHE88VIJ0ScVPoGDP+Jsv/tDu7cwRzxylrlBfs66xFGVcuJ5Vqyc Z097pbypUhl6wBooL591wV0lqGFpWzCmy5vSn2IM5mzLgBmxXWAQWU6/3cXUQuZyK3z2j97mC tLJqyelMyIrr4axCr4vDVVMdabpVWGC8h+SJpVrc0UYczukHCvprpmD6eNhAHmUcH8kBw5JsH VkNc120ICEamSEvU2IEYqBhL9sgkCjuV0xWk0WHl/+iEC04qCs5lV/IWJ0G4cVZ1W49G/r3i5 imrga71 X-Scan-Signature: 61577e2058c0d3bf1737d7de6ed6eb16 Subject: RE: LF: RE: Transformer questions. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lipkowski.org id v5OHegLo030404 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12091 Hi Chris, Just to be sure, you >want me to reverse the connections so the AIM is looking at the >winding that would normally go to the loading coil, and the loading >coil and antenna is connected to the winding that would normally go, >via about 50 feet of co-ax, to the auto transformer in the shack bound >combiner? I'm not sure if I understand your description correctly so I try with a block diagram. Is it like this? TRX - short coax - autotransformer - longer run of RG-213 - isolation XFM 1:1 - loading coil - feeder - antenna 73 Clemens DL4RAJ >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Wilson >Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 6:32 PM >To: Clemens Paul >Subject: Re: LF: RE: Transformer questions. > >Hello Clemens, > >Saturday, June 24, 2017, 11:34:18 AM, you wrote: > >> Hi Chris, > >>>Can I wind the isolating >>>transformer as a 1 : 1 and do impedance matching (which changes with >>>weather / foliage growth) indoors using a tapped combiner auto >>>transformer? > >> This would be possible but more or less lossy. >> What is the impedance as seen by your AIM when you measure on the >> secondary side of the 1:1 isolation transformer >> with antenna and feeder connected to the primary winding? >> How long is the coax between the isolation- and the auto-transformer? >> With these data it is easy to predict the losses quite accurately. > >> 73 >> Clemens >> DL4RAJ > >I'll do some testing tomorrow, been trying to gain a bit of vertical >height today and have run out of "play time". Just to be sure, you >want me to reverse the connections so the AIM is looking at the >winding that would normally go to the loading coil, and the loading >coil and antenna is connected to the winding that would normally go, >via about 50 feet of co-ax, to the auto transformer in the shack bound >combiner? > >Thanks for your help! > > > > >-- >Best regards, > Chris mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com > > > >--- >Diese E-Mail wurde von AVG auf Viren geprüft. >http://www.avg.com >