Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: dcc1: mailn 1182; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v4OFDM9v004852 for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 17:13:23 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dDXrs-0004fq-7H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 May 2017 16:06:32 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dDXrm-0004fh-Pw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 May 2017 16:06:26 +0100 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dDXrj-00027e-IZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 May 2017 16:06:25 +0100 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C6DF20CD2 for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 17:06:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 3wXwhX2BFKz10BN for ; Wed, 24 May 2017 17:06:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5925A16B.7050100@posteo.de> Date: Wed, 24 May 2017 17:06:19 +0200 From: DK7FC User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <1456380282.20170524154713@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1456380282.20170524154713@gmail.com> X-Scan-Signature: fc152e7304849b9a177649b85aea9f41 Subject: Re: LF: Iron dust toroids and heating Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11751 Hi Chris, 115 uH appears to be very much for 137 kHz. Not sure what type of filter you are using but the standard filters use j50 Ohm which is 59 turns on a T200-2 if i remember correctly. I passed 1.5 kW through such type of filters and the caroe became maybe just 60 C warm. So with a T225-2 you should have no problems at 2.5 kW :-) For an air coil you will need more wire and will have more losses unless you choose a big RF litz wire. But the size will be extreme and there should be no lossy things in a radius of the length of the coil. I would build a LPF based on j50 Ohm coils and -j50 Ohm Cs (~ 22 nF at LF) and use the T225-2 cores. 73, Stefan Am 24.05.2017 16:47, schrieb Chris Wilson: > Hello LF'ers, > > 24 May 2017 > > > If I run the combiner on my 2 amps the LPF centre toroid heats up. I > made a silly mistake with setting my U3S driver the other night and > instead of TX'ing every 30 minutes it went on an every two minute > rampage before it soon self halted. The centre toroid winding has lost > most of its enamel coating and the Kaptan tape is crispy. It no longer > functions as an LPF, and I suspect the T225A-2 toroid is compromised > in its crystalline structure, through the very high temperatures, now. > 115uH seems to be the calculated figure, if not actually measured (73 > turns 14 AWG enamelled wire) of the centre inductor. An air core coil > of similar inductance isn't THAT big, (at least not the size of a > "small car" as someone on a US forum estimated :)) Is an air cored LPF > viable, or do i need to look at different core sizes or materials? > Thanks. LPF is at: > > > http://www.w1vd.com/LPF.html > > Thanks. > > > >