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[82.70.254.222]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e125sm2379725wmd.33.2017.05.16.08.29.30 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 16 May 2017 08:29:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Wilson X-Google-Original-From: Chris Wilson Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 16:29:29 +0100 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1009577925.20170516162929@gmail.com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <15c11b55a0f.marcocadeddu@tin.it> References: <15c11b55a0f.marcocadeddu@tin.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scan-Signature: 290c8768709872f914a4ca71ad6bfe49 Subject: Re: R: Re: LF: RE: Combining LF amps revisited Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lipkowski.org id v4GFXRbf032505 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11701 Hello Marco, 16 May 2017 Good to hear from you, thanks for the reply. I have remade the combiner's output transformer using 3 stacked 78 material toroids of the same size, and wound it with 180 strand speaker wire, pure copper, with an inner conductor of about 2mm diamter. I wound 3 times as many turns, 15 on the primary, 21 turns on the secondary. It now runs about 40 degrees Celcius with no fan cooling, and the drain wave forms are a lot less spiky. I saw fair-Rite now list a 98 compound, and it's advertised as a big improvement for the frequency than the 78 material, but there's an error on their web site and 98 compound is not available in toroidal form, unfortunately. I did see this beast in 78 compound though, a lot bigger than the FT-240 cores, and wondered if the fairly high cost is worth it? http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/ferrite-rings/4956317/ Thanks again! > Chris, > I guess there is a little misstyping in the calculation performed from > Clemens on the DJ5IL tool.... > he entered 2.5 instead of 25 in the impedance box: the primary > winding after the combiner should work on 25 ohms. If you enter 25 ohm > the flux rise a lot beyond the saturation of the 3 stacked cores and > therefore they have all the rights to warmup! > On the other hand if you apply the Bmax formula given from Andy, the 3 > stacked cores have A of 471mm² > and with 2kW of power on 25 ohms the minimum number of turns on the > primary should be 8 not 5. > So one more turn to keep B below 0,1T and you should run more > confortable with N1/N2=9/13 > 73 de Marco, IK1HSS -- Best regards, Chris mailto:dead_fets@gmail.com