Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: : mailn 1480; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v3AJ9EbV024381 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 21:09:15 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1cxedO-0007FX-6P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:05:54 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1cxedN-0007FO-It for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:05:53 +0100 Received: from smtp-out-3.talktalk.net ([62.24.135.67]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1cxedJ-0000t4-HS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:05:52 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([78.150.101.74]) by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP id xedIc6TIRxR4bxedIcq0M9; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:05:48 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [78.150.101.74] X-Spam: 0 X-OAuthority: v=2.2 cv=JNN5iICb c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=rH0K4xDDyjoBvG9IdaC0nA==:117 a=rH0K4xDDyjoBvG9IdaC0nA==:17 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=CeXiu7uQAAAA:8 a=3BWdGlAgXzZMXlUHRTAA:9 a=C1glg2MMI-zKkCa4:21 a=b4PhkyqoSw5DiId7:21 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=Dehn55im9T8A:10 a=qu1I0KbDxXB2ZQUyvGdP:22 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <58EA2389.9070107@posteo.de> <519a2968-f0e0-e779-a1e9-c3e1e0085ba8@psk31.plus.com> <58EB9AA6.1010804@posteo.de> From: g3zjo Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:05:50 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <58EB9AA6.1010804@posteo.de> X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 170410-0, 10/04/2017), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfARjKhWc7Bg8WmrXaV7dd75Mm0W3rrpABKgBmiXtYqqhH2rLXxfCHnlZ9rE5o5eZPcVQzay5HBNytHuyC7lgXtb7aVU5U0+bhDeFVMLsd8FmtGj8lV3w 2B4K9SxQCbB8mp2FdMy4sWQ9NyFOn2gt3TXpDGXkrgkq/89jQc4jVfll70uVS7oYgrBA4AANqpB25w== X-Scan-Signature: e6de17d69e46ff4ea8db042ef2cd7e46 Subject: Re: VLF: DFCW-6000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Status: RO X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 11209 Hi Stefan Loops at this QTH are not very successful, yes lots of mains borne QRM. I do have a 1.2m diameter octagonal 10mm copper loop, I have never tried that on Sub 9kHz, I may try it one day down at the shed but its not possible for a while. That little bit of woodland you spotted for possible /P is private, as usual for the UK :-( Although there are some public foot paths that pass through, it is still part of Lady Di's father, Earl Spencer's estate I think. His gamekeepers have barricaded in some 4 wheel drive vehicles which were in another of his parcels of woodland here:- http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html?qth=IO92MG54RP&from=IO92MG54MO and the owners had to abandon them. The size of the parcels of woodland is such that if you blink as you drive past them you will miss them :-) I don't think that spot you chose would be that quiet, there is the saw mill a few meters to the East and an industrial estate just to the South. It is so different in scale to your forests and the accessibility, isolation and beauty they offer. I have in the past taken the e-probe to some fairly isolated camping sites to see how quiet it can be. 73 Eddie G3ZJO On 10/04/2017 15:45, DK7FC wrote: > What i wanted to suggest: What about a loop as an alternative antenna? > With 2 soundcards you could run 2 spectrograms comparing both > antennas. You know the loop in my tree is a single turn loop with just > 1.2m diameter out of copper tube which has 10mm diameter. It is a non > resonated loop with a ferrite transformer (Al~10nH), i.e. 1 single > primary turn and about 100 secondary turns connected to the preamp. It > could help to reduce the QRN in summer. But maybe the QRM becomes even > higher. On the other side you can eventually cancel out the QRM, maybe > worth a try. > Or go /p, e.g.. here: > http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html?qth=IO92MG54RP&from=IO92MG54MO :-)